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    Quote Originally Posted by AClockworkOrange View Post
    I'll join the chorus of recommendations for Klemperer's recording of the piece. It is an excellent performance, highly lauded and rightly so.

    A recording which I also enjoy is Simon Rattle's recording with the Berliner Philharmoniker. I find Rattle can be hit and miss but on Brahms' Requiem he and his forces perform very well indeed.

    If you don't mind Mono sound, Rudolfe Kempe also recorded a very good Requiem too.

    I haven't heard the Karajan or Gardiner so I cannot really comment there.
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    1. Klemperer, yes, of course.
    2. Karajan w/ Janowitz is also amazing and I may prefer the 2nd and 6th movements to the Klemperer (Mainly choral movements)
    4. I've never liked anything Rattle ever conducted but I do like his German Requiem. Quasthoff is very good.
    3. Something I found on Youtube is posted below. I haven't found this version for purchase but it's certainly worth a watch for true lovers of this work. Conductor: Hansruedi Kämpfen. Soloists Regula Mühlemann, Rudolf Rosen. First I'll state the obvious. I'd marry Mühlemann without meeting her. Besides that, I love the conductor, orchestra, and soloists here. Besides the shoddy camera work at times, (Barely showing the Rosen, ever, but zooming in every chance possible on Mühlemann's face. Not a HUGE problem, mind you.) this is a really great version and the high def makes it a great watch and my #3.

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    Best versions:

    Furtwängler (1947)
    Walter (live 1954)
    Gardiner (1990)
    Karajan (1947)
    Klemperer
    Kempe
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    ^ Some of those are good but I don't think Gardiner belongs in a list of "the best" even if it is a favourite of yours! I could add Kegel's version as a good one and the one by Jansons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthusiast View Post
    ^ Some of those are good but I don't think Gardiner belongs in a list of "the best" even if it is a favourite of yours!
    I’m not exactly alone in that opinion

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    In the religious section are numerous topics about the same work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmsianhorn View Post
    I’m not exactly alone in that opinion
    No, of course. Lots of people liked Gardiner's German Requiem and I suppose it was a breath of fresh air when it came out. But it really doesn't belong in the august company of your shortlist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthusiast View Post
    No, of course. Lots of people liked Gardiner's German Requiem and I suppose it was a breath of fresh air when it came out. But it really doesn't belong in the august company of your shortlist.
    I disagree. I listened to many recording of the work without really appreciating it, including all of the ones Brahmsianhorn mentions - it wasn't until I heard the Gardiner recording that I realized what a great composition the German Requiem is. Since then I've come to enjoy some of the others, particularly Kempe and Klemperer, but the Gardiner is still the version I reach for most often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    I disagree. I listened to many recording of the work without really appreciating it, including all of the ones Brahmsianhorn mentions - it wasn't until I heard the Gardiner recording that I realized what a great composition the German Requiem is. Since then I've come to enjoy some of the others, particularly Kempe and Klemperer, but the Gardiner is still the version I reach for most often.
    The choral shaping is exquisite. And people on here know I am not usually a period instrument fan. But this recording is special. It's not the novelty of it. It is the musicality. Next to Gardiner, Klemperer sounds unnuanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmsianhorn View Post
    The choral shaping is exquisite. And people on here know I am not usually a period instrument fan. But this recording is special. It's not the novelty of it. It is the musicality. Next to Gardiner, Klemperer sounds unnuanced.
    That’s a pretty extreme statement, especially from you! Klemperer is still my favorite of the few I’ve heard, though I also like the Gardiner. Klemperer’s German Requiem was my “gateway drug” to both Brahms and Klemperer.

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    My favorites are Klemperer, Gardiner and Herreweghe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    My favorites are Klemperer, Gardiner and Herreweghe.
    To which I'll add Kempe and Kegel. Both feature superb choral contributions, and the former also has Elisabeth Grümmer.

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    Klemperer is Klemperer. He presents a vision of the work that is 100% focused and very serious. It is far from my favourite but it is powerful and very much to be respected. I'm afraid I find Gardiner - for all the fine singing that he gets - a little slick. I do quite like the Herreweghe.

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    My favorite is the one that lives in my ears and my soul _ I was lucky to sing it under Neeme Jarvi

    I have the Klemperer and Gardiner but find I listen to the Chicago/Levine because Haken Hagegard is one of my favorite singers and because of the outstanding chorus

    I have to ponder this but I don’t think I’ve ever heard a bad Brahms requiem
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