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    Just ran across this on YouTube. Everything he talks about can be applied to music.

    Pyotr Ilich Tchaikovsky - "I sit down to the piano regularly at nine-o'clock in the morning and Mesdames les Muses have learned to be on time for that rendezvous."

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    Well, it isn't. .

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    Ah, Jesus. You can't generalise the whole damn thing to "bad", and even if you could, "bad" would be the wrong word, because of course by "bad" people mean "I don't like it".

    Get over it.


    (ETA: the graph at 1:54 is f***ing hilarious.)
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    Came across this video before. Basically an old guy yelling at the clouds, "Back in the GOOD old days..."

    So yeah don't waste your time

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    "I don't like it. Therefore it must have no value."

    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckload View Post
    Just ran across this on YouTube. Everything he talks about can be applied to music.
    I don't know... I don't even think it can be applied to art.

    I kind of hoped, for his sake, that this was just a joke, but it doesn't look that way. I can understand his frustration if his own works involve a lot of skill but all the attention goes to someone who just place an everyday item somewhere. But the art world has known for a century now, that art doesn't have to involve skill, or rather that the skill involved can be imagination.

    As a work of art, though, this video is excellent!
    "Lend your ears to music, open your eyes to painting, and … stop thinking! Just ask yourself whether the work has enabled you to “walk about” into a hitherto unknown world. If the answer is yes, what more do you want?"
    - Wassily Kandinsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmos View Post
    Came across this video before. Basically an old guy yelling at the clouds, "Back in the GOOD old days..."

    So yeah don't waste your time
    it's easy to dismiss it like this but:
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    Most modern art is bad because our culture is heading downward; our world has become so hedonistic and degenerate that most artists have nothing significant to say—they live for money and consumption; they live for themselves.
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    I'm not sure I like his suggestion that artists keep getting better and better over time until the 20th century. The best of Hieronymus Bosch is a pretty high bar--even in the 19th century!

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    Interesting. "Prager University" is in fact a website calling itself an "On-line College for Conservatives" set up by one Dennis Prager, a conservative author, columnist and talk-show host. (Apologies, he may be a familiar figure in the USA, but I haven't come across him before).

    I'm not sure why it would seek to represent itself as a university. It seems to exist to disseminate short video talks from noted conservatives on a variety of subjects.
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    Oh wow that guy! What a clown.

    To his credit, though, the "university" doesn't appear to be hawking fake degrees at exorbitant cost, as such "universities" often do.

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    Having been warned of this guy's dubious credentials, I intend to return to my usual reliance on anonymous forum participants.

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    Dadaism is long dead, it seems some people haven't realised.

    Multidisciplinary new wave artist artists (Jack of all trades) are a load of mediocre products of a mediocre educational system. I don't think they even pretend to be high culture or have the aspiration to be part of (you know, that elitist patriarchal oppressive whatever...)

    That such blandness makes it to the media does not mean there are no modern artists of the highest standards, which was after all a huge deal for the Second Viennese School and the Darmstat collective.
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    What a load of rubbish. And 5 minutes of my life wasted watching it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurnaboutVox View Post
    Interesting. "Prager University" is in fact a website calling itself an "On-line College for Conservatives" set up by one Dennis Prager, a conservative author, columnist and talk-show host. (Apologies, he may be a familiar figure in the USA, but I haven't come across him before).

    I'm not sure why it wold seek to represent itself as a university. It seems to exist to disseminate short video talks from noted conservatives on a variety of subjects.
    I think you are correct on all counts, at least that is also what I assume. If it is the same Dennis Praeger who is a tralk radio pundit he takes a more intellectual approach than someone like Rush Limbaugh. He also, as a conservative jew, often discusses interesting religious topics. But I just thought the art thing was illuminating. I hope we don't start talking politics on this thread.
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