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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplets View Post
    My CD players have been extremely durable. Perhaps those who have problems should change their dealers.
    Or a different price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplets View Post
    My CD players have been extremely durable. Perhaps those who have problems should change their dealers.
    What brand/brands of CD players have you had success with?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    Or a different price range.
    Like I said earlier, it seems like people have the best results with the mid-priced stuff as long as they aren't CD changers. There's some brands that are stinkers there though so it's certainly worthwhile to know what brands and which eras are the most reliable so people know what to look for. The audiophile brands are a mixed bag in my experience for both CD players and turntables. Some might be really reliable, but some come out of the box wonky and never work right or just flat out don't last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klassik View Post
    What brand/brands of CD players have you had success with?



    Like I said earlier, it seems like people have the best results with the mid-priced stuff as long as they aren't CD changers. There's some brands that are stinkers there though so it's certainly worthwhile to know what brands and which eras are the most reliable so people know what to look for. The audiophile brands are a mixed bag in my experience for both CD players and turntables. Some might be really reliable, but some come out of the box wonky and never work right or just flat out don't last long.
    My parents have a Philips CD 100 ( one of the first,) and it's still playing.
    Not in daily bases but they demonstrate it from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    My parents have a Philips CD 100 ( one of the first,) and it's still playing.
    Not in daily bases but they demonstrate it from time to time.
    Those first generation CD players are neat. Philips sold those under the Magnavox brand here in the US. Made in Belgium if I remember correctly. Does it play 74+ min discs okay? What about discs with ~20+ tracks? Some early CD players struggle with those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klassik View Post
    Those first generation CD players are neat. Philips sold those under the Magnavox brand here in the US. Made in Belgium if I remember correctly. Does it play 74+ min discs okay? What about discs with ~20+ tracks? Some early CD players struggle with those.
    I will ask them later today, I thinks they are still in bed( retired )

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    I've had the gamut. I currently use and Oppo 105 as a transport in my 2 channel system, and a Sony SACD 5400 and a Pioneer Elite player (the latter two are more than 10 years old) in my multichannel systems. I've had Denton, Marantz, Rega players....all pretty reliable

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    I grew up in the 70s so I was brought up on LPs. By the time I got my first CD player I had amassed about 2000 LPs and a about 1000 singles (not to mention about 500 cassettes). As soon as I heard my first CD I was converted. Since then I've collected CDs exclusively and now this interspersed with a MASSIVE digital collection (about 2TB) at the last count. I miss the feel of vinyl, the big covers and the aesthetic beauty of seeing the record but NOT the clips, crackles and rumble of the vinyl format (not to mention the odd terrible pressing). I took great care with my records but they would always accrue extra pops and farts with subsequent plays. I loved the convenience and uniform quality (most of the time) of the CD format but now prefer digital files even more (convenience, putting on your phone, in the car, etc). I sold off about 1500 LPs over the last 5 years and I don't regret that none bit. Although I understand the attraction of vinyl (many of my mates still collect it) I certainly don't miss it much. Now my turntable is only set up to my system purely to test LPs before I sell them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klassik View Post
    Those first generation CD players are neat. Philips sold those under the Magnavox brand here in the US. Made in Belgium if I remember correctly. Does it play 74+ min discs okay? What about discs with ~20+ tracks? Some early CD players struggle with those.
    I did call my parents but they were heading towards a day out, let you know later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplets View Post
    I've had the gamut. I currently use and Oppo 105 as a transport in my 2 channel system, and a Sony SACD 5400 and a Pioneer Elite player (the latter two are more than 10 years old) in my multichannel systems. I've had Denton, Marantz, Rega players....all pretty reliable
    I'd expect Oppo, Pioneer Elite, and Denon/Marantz to be pretty reliable. With Sony, it kind of depends. There was a joke in the 1990s that Sony's engineers were so good that they could accurately design their components to fail precisely the day after the warranty was up! Perhaps their single disc CD players were better, but their DAT, MiniDisc, cassette decks, and VCRs were pretty prone to failure. I'm not so sure about Rega, I don't have enough experience with them. I'd steer clear from NAD if you want reliability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klassik View Post
    I'd expect Oppo, Pioneer Elite, and Denon/Marantz to be pretty reliable. With Sony, it kind of depends. There was a joke in the 1990s that Sony's engineers were so good that they could accurately design their components to fail precisely the day after the warranty was up! Perhaps their single disc CD players were better, but their DAT, MiniDisc, cassette decks, and VCRs were pretty prone to failure. I'm not so sure about Rega, I don't have enough experience with them. I'd steer clear from NAD if you want reliability.
    I had one NAD player, in fact I still own it. It was a 'Universal' player before Blu Ray came out, and it played SACD by converting it to PCM, so I replaced it with the Oppo. The NAD worked flawlessly, however....no complaints.
    The Rega was the first generation of the Apollo, and that was the most problematic player I ever had. It was the first CDP that worked by transferring the bit stream to an internal HD and playing the music back from the HD as it spun. A lot of CDPs now do that, but the Apollo had a slow start time--more like a BLu Ray- and was finicky about discs, rejecting several that other players would spin.

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    Btw, my first CDP, purchased in 1985 , was a Sony, and it did ultimately die on me, the only CDP that has ever done so--but after about 12 years of frequent use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplets View Post
    I had one NAD player, in fact I still own it. It was a 'Universal' player before Blu Ray came out, and it played SACD by converting it to PCM, so I replaced it with the Oppo. The NAD worked flawlessly, however....no complaints
    NAD has a nickname, "Nearly Always Defective." I guess you're one who got lucky though.

    I remember reading a forum/blog post elsewhere where people were discussing new turntables. One of the popular audiophile brands was being slammed for frequently sending out new turntables out of the box that ran at the wrong speed and had other misalignments. I think it was Rega, but maybe it was someone else. I wish I could remember. Anyway, I've heard some people complain about certain high dollar audiophile CD players/transports that are picky about discs. I'm not sure which brands are worse for it, but you're probably not alone in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klassik View Post
    Those first generation CD players are neat. Philips sold those under the Magnavox brand here in the US. Made in Belgium if I remember correctly. Does it play 74+ min discs okay? What about discs with ~20+ tracks? Some early CD players struggle with those.
    It does not plays 70+ minutes , the player have no problems with 20+ tracks, the early Philps opera recordings with subtracts are confusing for the player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    It does not plays 70+ minutes , the player have no problems with 20+ tracks, the early Philps opera recordings with subtracts are confusing for the player.
    The 70 minute limitation must have been frustrating as it wasn't long before 70+ minute CDs became pretty common. Some 1990s and earlier CD players struggle with 80+ minute CDs, although those are pretty rare in my experience. Off the top of my head, the only CD I have that is over 80 minutes is a Chandos Respighi CD. It plays back fine in all my players.

    Do you mean index marks? Index marks were a good idea aimed at classical music fans, but not a lot of CD players ever implemented them. I'm not sure if any currently produced CD players can read index marks. I don't have many CDs with index marks, but I actually played one of them today (a cheapo Pilz Vivaldi Violin Concerto CD). I've never had a problem playing those CDs even on CD players that don't support index marks.

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    Somebody recently posted about an 83-minute CD, the record so far as I know.
    Last edited by KenOC; Apr-16-2017 at 06:32.


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