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    Listening to CD and vinyl are totally 2 different mindsets. The vinyl mindset is a complicated one, there are so many positive aspects of warmth sound and "airy" dimensions of the music. However, it is a high maintenance price people have to pay. Even for that price, there is no guarantee that the stylus would pick up the the clicks and pop from dusts.

    Listening to CD is a lower maintenance but we sacrifice the warmth, engaging dimensions. No matter how digital technology advanced in the last 10 years such as SACD, DVD-audio, XRCD, HDCD, blu-ray audio etc., it is very difficult to substitution vinyl.

    I do not listen to vinyl any more because of the maintenance reasons, I think I pay a smaller price listening to CD than listening to vinyl. The price I pay is time. I spend less time doing the 'maintenance" and more time enjoying the music I am listening. In other words, with the same time investment, I have more music to enjoy and emotions that I can experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcnog11 View Post
    Listening to CD and vinyl are totally 2 different mindsets. The vinyl mindset is a complicated one, there are so many positive aspects of warmth sound and "airy" dimensions of the music. However, it is a high maintenance price people have to pay. Even for that price, there is no guarantee that the stylus would pick up the the clicks and pop from dusts.

    Listening to CD is a lower maintenance but we sacrifice the warmth, engaging dimensions. No matter how digital technology advanced in the last 10 years such as SACD, DVD-audio, XRCD, HDCD, blu-ray audio etc., it is very difficult to substitution vinyl.

    I do not listen to vinyl any more because of the maintenance reasons, I think I pay a smaller price listening to CD than listening to vinyl. The price I pay is time. I spend less time doing the 'maintenance" and more time enjoying the music I am listening. In other words, with the same time investment, I have more music to enjoy and emotions that I can experience.

    But those glorious covers, the beautiful booklets in oprea boxes.........I love it.
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    I still for the warmth and engaging dimensions, give me vinyl any day and prepared to pay the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese View Post
    I still for the warmth and engaging dimensions, give me vinyl any day and prepared to pay the price.
    "I think some people interpret the lack of top end [on vinyl] and interpret an analog type of distortion as warmth," says Jim Anderson, a Grammy-winning recording engineer and professor at New York University's Clive Davis Institute of Recorded Music. "It's a misinterpretation of it. But if they like it, they like it. That's fine."

    http://www.laweekly.com/music/why-cd...-vinyl-5352162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    But those glorious covers, the beautiful booklets in oprea boxes.........I love it.
    It's also clear that the vinyl experience is about more than just sound. Pete Lyman, co-owner and chief mastering technician at Infrasonic Sound, an audio and vinyl mastering studio in Echo Park, says he believes listeners are gravitating toward vinyl for the physical experience of owning, holding and flipping an LP.
    "I don't think that [sound is] really the appeal for people right now," Lyman says. "They like the collectability factor. They like the whole ritual and process of listening to it. They're more engaged with the music that way."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    "I think some people interpret the lack of top end [on vinyl] and interpret an analog type of distortion as warmth," says Jim Anderson, a Grammy-winning recording engineer and professor at New York University's Clive Davis Institute of Recorded Music. "It's a misinterpretation of it. But if they like it, they like it. That's fine."

    http://www.laweekly.com/music/why-cd...-vinyl-5352162
    I think that the above is a fallacy, a good vinyl set up with good quality cartridge provides plenty of top end, good carts produces freqs above 20kHz so don't know where this guy gets off. My Joe Grado Sign 8M Cart freq response 10 to 50,000Hz and my Denon 103 cart 20-45,000Hz...................

    http://www.vinylengine.com/library/g...ature-8m.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese View Post
    I think that the above is a fallacy, a good vinyl set up with good quality cartridge provides plenty of top end, good carts produces freqs above 20kHz
    Just because a cartridge can reproduce a frequency, it doesn't mean those frequencies are in the grooves. Ultra high frequencies in vinyl record grooves are VERY delicate, and are prone to turning to a mush of distortion in as few as just a handful of plays. My brother bought an expensive test record for his McIntosh system that had calibrated test tones up to the edge of human hearing. The first time he played it, the tones above 15kHz progressively got very faint, which wasn't surprising because they were at the edge of human perception. But after a few plays, they became noisier and noisier until they were just white noise. He had a perfectly calibrated Thorens turntable and one of the best Shure cartridges made and it still wore the modulations out. That's why people who do disk mastering generally roll off ultra high frequency information. If they didn't, the cymbals would turn to mush after a handful of plays. It's even worse at the inner grooves, which have far less resolution than the outer grooves. That's why albums generally have the hit single at the beginning of side B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese View Post
    I still for the warmth and engaging dimensions, give me vinyl any day and prepared to pay the price.
    recorded digitally, moved to tape, back to digital and then there is analog vinyl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    The pictures in that article, hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    The article says they are moving to a new location not ceasing operations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDs View Post
    The article says they are moving to a new location not ceasing operations.
    See headline of article. Probably not a done deal yet. Please keep us posted, if you have any further related news. Thanks.

    "United Record Pressing's operations may be moving to a new space -- in a statement to Billboard, a company spokesperson calls the company's new digs 'a game-changer' -- the size of which can conservatively be estimated at two football fields...."
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    Thanks, Vaneyes.
    Two football fields but still with pressing machinery held together with tie-raps and duct tape.
    The next new pressing plant will probably be in China. Once the rich folk over there are fed up paying thousands for their Blue Notes (and classical music is going into that direction as well), they will just press their own.

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