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Thread: Til Eulenspiegel vs. Taras Bulba

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    Default Til Eulenspiegel vs. Taras Bulba

    Contest between these two witty and colorful tone poems, both containing some of the most memorable squeaky E flat clarinet writing(which I believe both signify executions), alongside Symphony Fantastique and Mahler 2.

    The Strauss is maybe 30 years the predecessor to the Janacek, and the latter is in 3 movements though I believe is only about a third longer. I love both these pieces and am curious what you all think. I do love them both, but I would not hesitate to prefer Taras Bulba if given a choice.

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    Neither .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richannes Wrahms View Post
    Neither .
    Well foohey....

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    Til Eulenspiegel by a mile

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    Taras, by a marathon.

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    I have to admit, I've been more drawn to Taras Bulba, but that's because of prejudice. When I see a Strauss tone poem, my first instinct is to duck and hide, because I know I'll never hear all the details of the narrative. I always get stuck listening for a dropped teacup, and the whole story flies past me.

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    well, can't vote now, because I know the novel Taras Bulba , but to find out how true it is to a novel first I have to listen to Janacek
    Man muss das Leben tanzen

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    I like both but Taras Bulba is a work I wish Janáček would have expanded as three separate episodes, key as they are, don't do Gogol's novella enough justice. Even though the Strauss work is shorter I actually prefer its structure of beginning, middle and end - I suppose it was easier to condense a comparatively slight story into about 15 minutes of music, whereas I think Taras Bulba needs more music than the 20-odd minutes that Janáček gave us.
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

    ὃν οἱ θεοὶ φιλοῦσιν ἀποθνῄσκει νέος [Those whom the gods love die young] - Menander

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    I see Taras Bulba in my catalog but I'm afraid I have no memory of it. Til Eulenspiegel gets my vote if only because I started listening to it going on fifty years ago now.

    I guess I need to check out Janacek more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston View Post
    Til Eulenspiegel gets my vote if only because I started listening to it going on fifty years ago now.
    Wow! When I was in college, our band had a horn player, and every day he would warm up to the horn solo in Eulenspiegel. Every stupid day. I guess that's just what horn players do.
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    I find both wonderful. I seem to recall that at first I didn't like Taras Bulba, but on perhaps a second or third listen I did enjoy it. It's not easy picking between the two, but I think Strauss' tone poems have always been such a joy for me that I'll go with Strauss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    Til Eulenspiegel by a mile
    Til Eulenspiegel by 2.54cm.

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    Lightbulb

    Franz Waxman's 1962 Taras Bulba is my choice.


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    Til Eulenspiegel, but just by 1 light-second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdec View Post
    Til Eulenspiegel, but just by 1 light-second.
    "Just" 300 000 km?

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