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  • Johannes Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 1 in D minor

    23 41.82%
  • Pyotr Illyich Tchaikovsky: Piano Concerto No. 1 in B-flat minor

    20 36.36%
  • Emil von Sauer: Piano Concerto No.1 in E minor

    1 1.82%
  • Sergei Bortkiewicz: Piano Concerto No.1 in B flat major

    1 1.82%
  • Sergei Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 1 in F-sharp minor

    5 9.09%
  • Alexander Scriabin: Piano Concerto in F-sharp minor

    8 14.55%
  • Sergei Lyapunov: Piano Concerto No 1 in E flat major

    1 1.82%
  • Franz Liszt: Piano Concerto No. 1 in E-flat major

    5 9.09%
  • Max Reger: Piano Concerto in F minor

    1 1.82%
  • Samuel Barber: Piano Concerto

    7 12.73%
  • Alexander Glazunov: Piano Concerto No. 1 in F minor

    1 1.82%
  • Ignacy Jan Paderewski: Piano Concerto in A Minor

    0 0%
  • Edvard Grieg: Piano Concerto in A minor

    13 23.64%
  • Kurt Atterberg: Piano Concerto in B flat minor

    1 1.82%
  • Other(s)?

    15 27.27%
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    Default What do you deem as the most impressive First (or solo) Piano Concerto (or concerti)?

    In listening to Sauer's Piano Concerto no. 1 yesterday, I find myself charmed by the abundance of melodic ideas from start to finish. It is not particularly deep, and perhaps facile for some, but it is mighty attractive. The piano writing is delicious and the orchestration scintillating. So, I thought I come up with this thread and ask all of you what premiere or solo concerto(s) you find impressive, and a compelling foretaste for what's to come for the composer.

    I'm guessing that Brahms, Tchaikovsky, Schumann, and perhaps Liszt will enter your minds more readily. But for me, other than Sauer's, the other first (or solo) concerti I find impressive include:

    • Bortkiewicz
    • Lyapunov
    • Rachmaninoff
    • Brahms (of course)
    • Reger
    • Glazunov
    • Zygmunt Stojowski (especially bold piano entry)
    • Samuel Barber
    • Samuil Feinberg
    • Dmitry Kabalevsky
    • Kurt Atterberg
    • Lydia Auster (Estonian)
    • Ilmari Hannikainen
    • Aarre Merikanto
    • Bax (his Symphonic Variations)
    • Boris Lyatoshynsky (Slavic Concerto)

    So, any thoughts?
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    Schumann and, as mentioned, Brahms.
    Last edited by Harold in Columbia; Feb-17-2016 at 16:29.

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    I voted Brahms and Barber. Barber's is a fantastic piece of work and I think underrated.

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    Other: Chopin, Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Kozeluch

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    Schumann.

    I've always been indifferent to that Brahms concerto for some reason.

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    Beethoven, Schumann, Grieg, Prokofiev, Ravel (either concerto), Shostakovich, Bartok, Khachaturian, Hovhaness. In addition to the Brahms and Tchaikovsky.

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    I find it odd that you make the poll options entirely your own favorites and then relegate most of the good stuff to "Others". I don't mean to advocate to heavily for a false sense of objectivity... just saying that the inclusion of Sauer, Bortkiewicz, Lyapunov, Glazunov, Paderewski, and Atterberg is highly unusual given the exclusion of Ravel, Mendelssohn, Beethoven, and so on...
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    None of those.

    Prokofiev Piano Concerto No. 1.

    Pithy and to the point.

    Hey, Brahms, I don't have all day!!!
    Last edited by hpowders; Feb-17-2016 at 16:57.

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    I have to go with Brahms. So well-developed, so mature, no need to resort to flashiness as Tchaikovsky did. Just good, solid, near-impeccable composition.

    I certainly have not heard all of the others, especially those outside the main stream, but in my opinion, in terms of sheer genius, it towers over all other mainline first piano concertos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanb View Post
    I find it odd that you make the poll options entirely your own favorites and then relegate most of the good stuff to "Others". I don't mean to advocate to heavily for a false sense of objectivity... just saying that the inclusion of Sauer, Bortkiewicz, Lyapunov, Glazunov, Paderewski, and Atterberg is highly unusual given the exclusion of Ravel, Mendelssohn, Beethoven, and so on...
    Well, I wanted to include Ravel, Mendelssohn, Beethoven, and others, but the poll only allow fifteen. Also, the poll does not entirely reflect my favorites (I did not have enough room for those either), but reflects, for the most part, works that I feel are criminally underrated. As far as the good stuff are concerned, well, are you suggesting that those listed are not the good stuff, even given their obscurities?

    And besides, there's plenty of room to comment on what you consider the most impressive piano concerto (or concerti), whether famous or not, whether highly praised or not, and for a variety of reasons, whether agreeable or not.
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    Grieg, Schumann or Ravel. And outside the big names, Ireland.

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    I voted for Rachmaninoff, Scriabin and Grieg.

    Other: Moritz Moszkowski - Piano Concerto Op. 3 (= No. 1). Written at age 20.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1dDAs0fZic (premiere performance)
    It's pretty long so be warned. It took me a few listens but I really like this vibrant piece. There is a lot of energy and there are some fantastic melodic moments throughout.

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    I go with Tchaikovsky 1 as his is the most original.

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    In terms of works by more obscure composers, the 1st Concerto of Nikolai Medtner is both extremely ambitious structurally, as well as having an extraordinarily dramatic opening and some moments thoughout the piece of fine thematic climaxes.

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    By the way, are you guys aware that the Tchaikovsky 1St we commonly hear is a modified version by a pianist contemporary of Tchaikovsky? I managed to hear the first recording released of the original unaltered score, and the chords are not so thick in the beginning, and transposed into a different octave. There are some golden passages that none of us know that were removed from the prevalent version of today. It's a really weird story about this...

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