View Poll Results: Who is the best conductor of Russian music?

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  • Valery Gergiev

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  • Yevgeny Mravinsky

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  • Yevgeny Svetlanov

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Thread: The best recent conductor of Russian music.

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    Default The best recent conductor of Russian music.

    I chose these three because they are the big ones that I know of. Also, they are more recent so they have recordings for us to judge, rather than somebody like Glazunov, who may have had a reputation as an excellent conductor, but is impossible for us to judge today. Anyway, who's the best?

    If you think I've left any important ones out, feel free to mention them. Come to think of it, I probably should have made an 'other (mention)' option.
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    Gergiev does the trick for me.

    I'm afraid I've only heard Svetlanov in one or two rather light-ish Myaskovsky works, and Mravinsky--! There's something about Mravinsky I can barely stand to watch, plus so many of his recordings are mono I have trouble with them. His Shotakovich is okay I suppose.

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    The problem is that Mravinsky recorded so little, and Svetlanov, though usually good, also had some off-days. But given Svetlanov´s ambitious legacy (the huge series of Russian orchestral music, including tons of symphonies such as all Myaskovsky´s) and his general reliability, I´ll vote for Svetlanov. Don´t get me wrong, Mravinsky´s last Tchaikovsky symphonies are quite simply the best, for example, and his Shostakovich is often top-notch, just as he deserves praise for his Salmanov symphonies.

    Rozhdestvensky is in the same league as those in the poll, and Neeme Järvi, also educated in the Eastern Block days, likewise has a huge legacy.
    Finally, there are major names like Temirkanov, Rostropovitch and Kondrashin. Barschai didn´t record enough stuff.
    Last edited by joen_cph; Feb-29-2016 at 14:19.

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    ^^^
    Agree. Svetlanov is to Russian music as Herbert von Karajan is to German. He was a tireless advocate of Russian works, either obscured or not. It's curious, though, that there were composers he never really touched: Rubinstein, Catoire, Roslavets, Boris Tchaikovsky (he did Shchedrin & Eshpai so you would think), Kabalevsky even. He also had a flair for non Russian works: the symphonies and "The Mountain King" of Alfven, Villa-Lobos' "Floresta do Amazonas", etc.

    Other than the names Joen mentioned, Vladimir Fedoseyev ranks right up there with Svetlanov, Mravinsky, Gergiev, Kondrashin. There's also Nikolay Golovanov who is likewise worth a mention.
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    Yevgeny Mravinsky , hands down

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    I'm not sure Mravinsky qualifies as recent; most of his most important recordings are 50+ years old and he's been dead nearly 30.

    I'd write in Semyon Bychkov.

    Limited to those three choices, I'd go with Mravinsky.
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    With all the advice and completely legitimate criticism of my choosing just these three, I clearly wasn't the best person to make this thread! Ah well, I only really knew of those three very well, and I've learned a lot from those who've posted. If only I could edit polls..

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    I have to go with Gergiev. His live recording of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring a few years back is absolutely incredible! The only performance I know that never sounds rushed and impatient.
    He conducts it in perfect ballet tempi.
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    Mikhail Pletnev and Valery Gergiev for the present, Gennadi Rozhdestvensky for the recent past and Yevgeny Mravinsky for the Hall-of-Fame.
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    I would expect Valery Gergiev to lead the statistical results here. He conducts Russin operas very well too.

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    Temirkanov is slightly older generation to Gergiev, and I approve of his performances. Pletnev has also made quite a name for himself as a conductor.

    I know Neeme Jarvi is Estonian, but he studied some in Russia, and then became such a Russian music specialist that I put him on par with the others. But still, I'll leave him out of my vote. Svetlanov wins for me as the king of Russian conductors of the 20th century.
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    I believe Mravinsky to be one of the most over-rated conductors in history. His Shostakovich is fast and brutal, his Brahms is a non event and his Bruckner is fast and brutal.
    His Co Conductor in Chief in Leningrad, Kurt Sanderling, was a much greater conductor. I'll take his Shostakovich, Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Taneyev, Borodin and Rachmaninov any day: not that Mravinsky conducted the Scot Mc Raninov.

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