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    Quote Originally Posted by Dim7 View Post
    Here's some warnings:

    Where I grew up, High Surf was not cause for a warning but rather a reason to skip school and hit the beach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huilunsoittaja View Post
    Them Russians....

    A REALLY great example I have of a composer playing a prank on the audience (just like Haydn's practical joke in the Surprise Symphony) is below. Just listen all the way through, a soothing waltz... and it won't matter too much how you're listening to it, headphones or speakers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRvlKZ4bXnM

    I for one am glad we had a heads up first!

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    I was startled the first few times I heard Howard Hanson's "Beowulf's Lament." We get 13 seconds of what sounds like a pleasant barcarole before being slammed with an orchestral power chord.

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    Have a try on some contemporary/modern works? They just killed my ears.
    Kurtag: grabstein fur stephan
    Ligeti: atmospheres
    Boulez: Le marteau sans maitre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruckner Anton View Post
    Have a try on some contemporary/modern works? They just killed my ears.
    Kurtag: grabstein fur stephan
    Ligeti: atmospheres
    Boulez: Le marteau sans maitre
    You may have misunderstood the point of the thread.
    "No composer has been more innovative than Beethoven, he radically changed the nature and character of the music composed in the two centuries that followed his earliest works" - Charles Rosen ("The Classical Style")

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    Quote Originally Posted by juliante View Post
    Just listened to the final movement of Mahler's 6th for the first time, driving. With about 30 seconds left I turned up the volume to the max in order to be able to hear the last few peaceful bars.. only to have my ear drums perforated by a shattering final drum and brass clash.

    Any other similar moments !!!?? (I am aware of Haydns well signposted example !)

    Never turn up the volume whilst driving!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiesIraeCX View Post
    You may have misunderstood the point of the thread.
    You are right. Thanks for your reminder

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    Dynamic range compressor is a must. If the compressor is something fantastic like Bombardier, you can make it compress the dynamic range in just the right way to make the music sound like nothing changed except the loud parts aren't quite as loud and you can hear the soft parts better. I can't think of a better invention.

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    Hovhaness's Mount St Helens Symphony. The title alone should be warning enough, but don't let yourself be lulled too far by the tranquil music preceding the "eruption". (And for your speakers' sake don't turn the volume up to savour the tranquility.)
    Last edited by Johnhanks; Mar-15-2016 at 12:45. Reason: superfluous apostrophe

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    Going back to Mahler, if you're not familiar with the 2nd symphony then beware the massive fortissitissimo entry of the whole orchestra at the very start of the 5th movement. After the beauty and gentleness of the 'Urlicht' movement before, it can be a real shock.
    On a different tack, the 4th sy,phony of Giya Kancheli has extremes of very soft and explosive loud passges; in fact iirc, one recording even had a warning on the CD cover about these dynamic extremes.
    There may come a time when Youtube won't let us do this...

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    Now you know why I stick to Mozart - no ear damage here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chordalrock View Post
    Dynamic range compressor is a must. If the compressor is something fantastic like Bombardier, you can make it compress the dynamic range in just the right way to make the music sound like nothing changed except the loud parts aren't quite as loud and you can hear the soft parts better. I can't think of a better invention.
    I am personally aghast that someone would suggest using compression with classical music! (No offense. :-))

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkW View Post
    I am personally aghast that someone would suggest using compression with classical music! (No offense. :-))
    If musicians didn't habitually and apparently without awareness play fortes as fortissimos and pianos as ppp, I might sympathise with your position. I'm more aghast than you are that people don't put effort into fixing this sort of thing, that they're seemingly as comfortable with it as pigs lying in mud. I don't see why anyone would want to listen to music without hearing it properly, or music that is too loud. If I hadn't found a good compressor, I probably wouldn't listen to classical music anymore beyond early music.

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    Most classical music was not composed with car engines or even refrigerators and washers and dryers and neighbors mowing the lawn in mind. There are times I can't hear it even with headphones. (Not my noise cancelling ones though! They work great)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston View Post
    Most classical music was not composed with car engines or even refrigerators and washers and dryers and neighbors mowing the lawn in mind. There are times I can't hear it even with headphones. (Not my noise cancelling ones though! They work great)
    I hear you! Whenever I start listening to CM, my wife turns up the TV volume in an adjoining room, so much, that after a while I just give up.

    Good thing she's a great cook!
    Last edited by hpowders; Mar-15-2016 at 19:44.

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