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    So it's been a while since I purchased music online. My question is, can I buy individual classical music tracks online?

    I know it's possible at iTunes, but they give very little or no information on recordings so the only way to learn anything is to cross reference the album cover to some other source that has information, which is tedious. Also, the selection at iTunes is poor in this genre.

    I used to purchase from Classics Online and loved it - all the information one could possibly wish for, but it appears they only supply whole albums now. Same with most of the other major suppliers. Naxos has got really lazy and just points you to distributors. Amazon.com does allow individual track purchases, but only within the US. I'm in Canada and Amazon.ca does not.

    Any other options? I won't be purchasing a whole lot of classical music if I must purchase whole albums.

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    dont waste money buying tracks

    use this utility

    http://www.youtube-mp3.org/

    converts any you tube video to sound only - can then be burned to CD or put onto mp3 player.

    I doubt if the sound quality is significantly worse to any noticable and I have found it adequate if I just want an odd track.

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    stomanek's proposal, it should be noted, is a form of copyright infringement.

    eclassical.com and theclassicalshop.net are good sources of legal downloads.

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    http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/

    You can buy single tracks or the entire albums of most of their CD catalogue. You can even choose between 320kb MP3 or CD-quality FLAC. (some Master quality as well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nereffid View Post
    stomanek's proposal, it should be noted, is a form of copyright infringement.

    eclassical.com and theclassicalshop.net are good sources of legal downloads.
    Not if you download music whose copyright has expired.

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    The copyright on the music may be expired, but not the copyright on the performance.


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    I'm aware of the youtube-mp3 site. YouTube is invaluable for previewing music but I don't collect music this way for a variety of reasons:
    (1) my moral compass has changed from that of my teens, as has my financial capabilities
    (2) much there is live, which I don't prefer
    (3) the source/info is often unavailable/unreliable

    Thanks for the legal suggestions. I will investigate..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GioCar View Post
    http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/

    You can buy single tracks or the entire albums of most of their CD catalogue. You can even choose between 320kb MP3 or CD-quality FLAC. (some Master quality as well)
    This, nothing to add

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    The copyright on the music may be expired, but not the copyright on the performance.
    If the copyright on a recording has expired - it is in the public domain - it can be copied legally.
    However - it may infringe the user agreement stipulated by youtube that content must be streamed. I dont have any moral issues with downloading where copyright has expired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stomanek View Post
    If the copyright on a recording has expired - it is in the public domain - it can be copied legally.
    Correct. In the United States, recordings made before 1923 are safely out of copyright. If made later, probably not unless the copyright has not been renewed (which has been automatic since 1992).

    "Before 1972, sound recordings were not subject to federal copyright, but copying was nonetheless regulated under various state torts and statutes, some of which had no duration limit. The Sound Recording Amendment of 1971 extended federal copyright to recordings fixed on or after February 15, 1972, and declared that recordings fixed before that date would remain subject to state or common law copyright. Subsequent amendments have extended this latter provision until 2067. As a result, older sound recordings are not subject to the expiration rules that apply to contemporary visual works. Although these may enter the public domain as a result of government authorship or formal grant by the owner, the practical effect has been to render public domain audio virtually nonexistent." (Wiki)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Correct. In the United States, recordings made before 1923 are safely out of copyright. If made later, probably not unless the copyright has not been renewed (which has been automatic since 1992).

    "Before 1972, sound recordings were not subject to federal copyright, but copying was nonetheless regulated under various state torts and statutes, some of which had no duration limit. The Sound Recording Amendment of 1971 extended federal copyright to recordings fixed on or after February 15, 1972, and declared that recordings fixed before that date would remain subject to state or common law copyright. Subsequent amendments have extended this latter provision until 2067. As a result, older sound recordings are not subject to the expiration rules that apply to contemporary visual works. Although these may enter the public domain as a result of government authorship or formal grant by the owner, the practical effect has been to render public domain audio virtually nonexistent."
    Under UK law - from nov 1 2013 copyright was extended to 70 years. But any recording which was made available to the public whose copyright had already expired before that date is indeed in the public domain. So more or less anything released before 1963 nov 1 is in the public domain.

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    This article heralds the status of the beatles song love me do released in 1962 into the public domain in europe.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...urope-20130112

    dont know about the usa - seems that state copyright laws are tough.

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    Interesting! I think I prefer the British approach. The most recent extension of US copyrights to 95 years was dubbed "the Mickey Mouse protection act" for obvious reasons!


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    Give Google Play Music a try. I managed to find some pretty rare albums on there and you can buy individual tracks.

    https://play.google.com/store/music?hl=en

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Interesting! I think I prefer the British approach. The most recent extension of US copyrights to 95 years was dubbed "the Mickey Mouse protection act" for obvious reasons!
    The UK/EU law doesn't have a nickname but the extension from 50 to 70 years was clearly aimed at protecting the cash cow of sixties pop music.
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