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    Cool Lecture on prepared piano

    While preparing an entry in another thread I discovered this interesting video which is a lecture on Cage's music for prepared piano. I thought the members of this thread might find it interesting. I have reviewed the previous entries and I could not find it. Hope you all find it interesting as I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arpeggio View Post
    While preparing an entry in another thread I discovered this interesting video which is a lecture on Cage's music for prepared piano. I thought the members of this thread might find it interesting. I have reviewed the previous entries and I could not find it. Hope you all find it interesting as I did.

    I'd love to hear more of Drury's pergormances of Cage. I have his CD In a Landscape, which has some beautiful performances

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    See it can be done................ with commentary!

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    Thumbs up Article on 4'33"

    While reviewing another forum one if the contributors reference a great article on 4'33". I think the Cage fans will love to read it. It is one of the best analysis I have ever read.

    http://thehighhat.com/PopsClicks/005/433.html

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    This thread does point out one pertinent fact: John Cage remains one of the most controversial figures in twentieth century music. No two people share the same opinion of him, it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celloman View Post
    This thread does point out one pertinent fact: John Cage remains one of the most controversial figures in twentieth century music. No two people share the same opinion of him, it seems.
    In part, that's because nobody of these people knows Cage's oeuvre...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5ssRFrgF2k, Six Melodies.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEnCm8hZqhg, Second Construction.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-5xIJJgzmo, Third Construction.

    Pretty amazing pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celloman View Post
    This thread does point out one pertinent fact: John Cage remains one of the most controversial figures in twentieth century music. No two people share the same opinion of him, it seems.
    Well you could say that about every composer. If we're talking about general opinions, there are plenty of people who like Cage's music, and respect him as a composer, but they all might respect him in different ways. People who like and respect Bach, or Chopin, or Stravinsky, all might like or respect them and their work in different ways from one another.

    I think modernist music is controversial in general. Cage does get a particularly unfair bad reputation, and that usually dissipates when somebody actually learns a thing or two about the man, particularly that he is about the furthest thing from a pretentious snob.

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    You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in a Classical Music Forum. You have the right to listen to 4'33". If you do not have access to a performance of 4'33", one will be provided for you. Do you understand these rights?

    Okay, lean forward, put your hands against your computer, and spread your legs. Do I have permission to search your CD collection and computer music files? If not, we'll have to go downtown.
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    Cool Interview about cage

    In another thread one of Cage's many friends here made some unkind remarks about his music again. He mentioned a piece that Cage composed for electric chain saw. Well to my knowledge Cage never composed anything for electric chain saw. To make sure I conducted a search. Instead of finding a Sonata, Toccata or whatever for chain saw, I found an interesting interview of Lee Ranaldo, who is a rock musician who plays with the rock group Sonic Youth, concerning John Cage.

    Last January the Philadelphia Museum of Art staged an exhibit concerning Duchamp, Cage, Cunningham they called Dancing Around The Bride. Mr. Renaldo appeared at one of the performances. My wife and I visited the Museum and attended one of the performances. (Note: We did not attend the performance with Mr. Ranaldo.)

    Link to interview: http://www.sonicyouth.com/symu/lee/2...-january-2013/
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    Default JFK Concert in Dallas

    I have discovered the following review of a concert with the Dallas Symphony to commemerate the assasination of JFK. One of the works was a piece by Cage. I have hesitated to post this because I can just imagine the reactions from the anti-Cage crowd.

    Review of concert: http://bachtrack.com/review-nov-2013...composer%3D926
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    The latest thing I've heard of Cage's was that "opera." It's good, it's almost like listening to a real opera. It has interjections of early recordings in it. Like many Cage works, there seems to be an undercurrent of humor there, although it's not explicit, and very subtle. Maybe this is why many Cage-bashers resent him, as if he were thumbing his nose at tradition...and he may be. Nonetheless, I do not think Cage was "pulling our leg" or creating a hoax; I think he was very serious in everything he did, just not in an eyebrow-furrowing sort of way.
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    Cool Analysis of 4' 33"

    A member posted the following video in another thread. It appears to me that the member's motive is that he was critical of the 4' 33" and of the thread.

    I think it is actually a pretty good explanation of the work.

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    Default Review: John Cage's 'Thirty Pieces' has U.S. debut in St. Louis

    On January 24, 2014 the Saint Louis Symphony perfromed the U. S. premier of Cage's Thirty Pieces for Five Orchestras.

    Form the reviews I found it appears to have been big success:

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...#axzz2sO5NjTY3

    http://www.stltoday.com/entertainmen...b744ad9db.html
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    John Cage has a large and varied body of work. Critics should listen to it, instead of constantly bringing up 4'33". The Sonatas and Interludes is a good starting place.
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    Default Beyond My Grasp

    Stockhausen, Ligeti, lachenmann, Sciarrino, Babbitt, Xenakis, Barrett, Ferneyhough, Hespos... Love them all. Cage? Beyond my grasp.
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