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    Quote Originally Posted by premont View Post
    I have the 1959 recording on a release from Accord. I suppose the 1960 recording is the Archiv release. The two last ones (1972 and 1977), which I don't have, were as far as I know, only available in Japan. Which one of these four do you prefer yourself?
    In fact I hardly listen to these recordings, but because of this discussion I sampled the fugue of the 5th suite in each of them this morning, and my attention was most drawn to 1972. I’ll send the two later ones to you later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    In fact I hardly listen to these recordings, but because of this discussion I sampled the fugue of the 5th suite in each of them this morning, and my attention was most drawn to 1972. I’ll send the two later ones to you later.
    That would be really excellent. Thanks in advance.

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    A performance by Marc Coppey is now another favorite rendition of mine. (Apologies; I did a search on his name and, as I'd hoped, this thread showed in the results, but his name was not highlighted in the link given, and I was not about to sift through to seek its location somewhere in the several pages of this thread.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cello suite View Post
    A performance by Marc Coppey is now another favorite rendition of mine.
    Do you refer to his CD set or this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l5Ef8hMXEg

    or both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by premont View Post
    I have the 1959 recording on a release from Accord. I suppose the 1960 recording is the Archiv release. The two last ones (1972 and 1977), which I don't have, were as far as I know, only available in Japan. Which one of these four do you prefer yourself?
    What label is the 1972 recording?

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    Anyone formed a view on this one? I don't have the booklet, so I can't say anything much about the bowing technique she's exploring, other than that it's radically different from conservatory technique, it's supposed to be informed by historical practice, and is based in some way on gamba bowing.

    Info here

    https://www.jsbachcellosuites.com/project.html


    cover-cd-2.jpg

    I'm listening right now to the 5th, and I'm impressed by an urgency, an intensity, in the allemande.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Anyone formed a view on this one? I don't have the booklet, so I can't say anything much about the bowing technique she's exploring, other than that it's radically different from conservatory technique, it's supposed to be informed by historical practice, and is based in some way on gamba bowing.

    Info here

    https://www.jsbachcellosuites.com/project.html


    cover-cd-2.jpg

    I'm listening right now to the 5th, and I'm impressed by an urgency, an intensity, in the allemande.

    It’s exceptionally interesting. Expressive and controlled, dancing and noble. She articulates incisively, and her phrasing is well balanced, not too speech like, not too song like. Well recorded - she gets some very nice colours to come out of the instrument, and she uses all those timbres to bring out the interaction of the voices.

    The chords in the sarabande of the 6th are strikingly dissonant. Also striking is the contour, the structure, of the coutante. She’s prepared a performing edition of the music. It may well be worth finding out about what she’s discovered doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Anyone formed a view on this one? I don't have the booklet, so I can't say anything much about the bowing technique she's exploring, other than that it's radically different from conservatory technique, it's supposed to be informed by historical practice, and is based in some way on gamba bowing.

    Info here

    https://www.jsbachcellosuites.com/project.html


    cover-cd-2.jpg

    I'm listening right now to the 5th, and I'm impressed by an urgency, an intensity, in the allemande.
    It's on Amazon. I'll give it a listen.
    I don't live in the past,
    there's no future in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    It’s exceptionally interesting. Expressive and controlled, dancing and noble. She articulates incisively, and her phrasing is well balanced, not too speech like, not too song like. Well recorded - she gets some very nice colours to come out of the instrument, and she uses all those timbres to bring out the interaction of the voices.

    The chords in the sarabande of the 6th are strikingly dissonant. Also striking is the contour, the structure, of the coutante. She’s prepared a performing edition of the music. It may well be worth finding out about what she’s discovered doing that.
    I listened to some samples, fantastic!
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    I have Starker, Rostropovich, Maisky, Casals, Fournier, Lipkind, and Kniazev. That's enough. I suppose Rostropovich's is my favorite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88keys View Post
    I have Starker, Rostropovich, Maisky, Casals, Fournier, Lipkind, and Kniazev. That's enough.
    Never enough. At the very least, you need Queyras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodjem View Post
    What label is the 1972 recording?
    TDK Japan.

    http://sanrau2011.blogspot.com/2011/...-tdk_6431.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhoosierdude View Post
    It's on Amazon. I'll give it a listen.
    I greatly enjoyed this set. As long as it is on Amazon prime I will listen to it from time to time. The price tag is a bit steeper than I want to go for now.cover-cd-2.jpg
    I don't live in the past,
    there's no future in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhoosierdude View Post
    It's on Amazon. I'll give it a listen.
    I'm curious - were the tracks in the proper order? On Tidal, it appears that whoever is responsible forgot to separate disc 1 and disc 2. Thus the default track listing is: Suite 1 Prelude, Suite 4 Prelude, Suite 1, Allemande, Suite 4 Allemande . . .

    I can make a playlist that orders them properly, but it's a PITA.

    A few years back I engaged with a ranter here who came across several similar instances and promptly deemed Tidal useless. I acknowledged it does happen from time to time, but I could live with it. (Another example was the Annie Fischer Beethoven box set.)
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    This is the reason I stopped using Tidal years ago. It may have been me you "engaged with" Are you saying I'm a "ranter"? Is that a good thing?

    These are obviously divisive performances -- as always with great art -- I just got a message saying

    Listened to a sample on Spotify. I thought Pablo Casals was rough - but
    at least he is musical.

    I don't know anything technical about these recordings but I find them
    grotesque...
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