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    If you're using a laptop to make music, then it is a musical instrument. People do use them in live performance.

    For example:

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    Quote Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
    If you're using a laptop to make music, then it is a musical instrument. People do use them in live performance.

    For example:
    I know what you mean but I disagree.
    So a wind machine used in an alpine symphony is a musical inst, a Cannon used in the 1812 overture is a musical inst an ambient sound in 4.33 etc etc.
    If you use a violin to play table tennis does that make it a table tennis bat?
    Lots of things can be used to do other tasks other than that which it was designed for but they remain whatever it was that it was designed for.
    Neither my desk top or lap top can make music as in their original condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philoctetes View Post
    Computers are by nature not designed for specific applications
    But musical instruments are, their sole purpose is to facilitate the making of music no more no less.
    They are probably the most multi-purpose device ever created. And if you look at the names of companies who make computerized devices, you might find that some have "Instruments" in their names. I worked for one such company myself.
    I have a HP lap top and a DELL desk top they were not intended or purchased to make music, all of my friends have computers and they are not for making music, they are simply computers.

    So if it can load and run software that generates music electronically and outputs an audio signal, it can be a musical instrument
    All instruments require artifice for human use - while the wind can blow through the trees and make a sound that we cannot make, we can take a piece of the tree and shape it to make a sound the tree cannot make. So the computer is just another approach to the art of transforming something into an instrument.
    It cannot be a wind or string instrument or even a drum, if your program converts the PC key pad into a musical keyboard you would need miraculous fingers to play even the simplest of melodies and chords

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    Quote Originally Posted by philoctetes View Post
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    Not too late at all it is always interesting to hear what other people think

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    Anything that can produce music is a musical instrument. You can produce music by pressing keys on a piano, or by writing code. While people argue the semantics of "musical instrument" most of the music people listen to today is produced with computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Scarpia View Post
    Anything that can produce music is a musical instrument. You can produce music by pressing keys on a piano, or by writing code. While people argue the semantics of "musical instrument" most of the music people listen to today is produced with computers.
    I disagree, a tin can is made to contain something the fact that some guy in a deserted warehouse bashes a beat out of it does not make it a musical instrument, if I stamp my foot in accompaniment to music that I am listening to does change the fact that a foot is a foot is a foot, and how do you come to the conclusion that that computers are the most producers of music? do you mean after the musicians have performed the computer is used to convert the sound to hard copy or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Ante View Post
    I disagree, a tin can is made to contain something the fact that some guy in a deserted warehouse bashes a beat out of it does not make it a musical instrument, if I stamp my foot in accompaniment to music that I am listening to does change the fact that a foot is a foot is a foot, and how do you come to the conclusion that that computers are the most producers of music? do you mean after the musicians have performed the computer is used to convert the sound to hard copy or what?
    Turn on the radio you will mostly hear music assembled from audio samples or synthesized sounds assembled on computers. Now I will save you some typing and anticipate your objection that "that's not music."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Scarpia View Post
    Turn on the radio you will mostly hear music assembled from audio samples or synthesized sounds assembled on computers. Now I will save you some typing and anticipate your objection that "that's not music."
    The radio stations that I listen to would be 95% acoustic classical on the odd occasion there will be a program on electronic music which does not interest me, the stations are from all over the world, so not by any stretch of the imagination would you call it mostly.

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    Is the laptop a musical instrument?
    Certainly.

    Haven't you ever gotten frustrated at your laptop while punching out your latest term paper? And so you slam down the lid and start drumming on the laptop cover, say performing the solo from "In a Gadda da Vida"? Heck … that's as musical as it gets.

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    One might consider software such as LogicPro, Cubase or Sibelius a kind of instrument, especially when one considers the creative potential of in-built and 3rd party synths with their programming and sonic potential, sequenced within DAW's.

    The joy of learning a real instrument and all the benefits, sense of achievement and well being it bestows on the player are not something mastering software can truly offer imv, (I've had to learn both in my career), but then again I am old school. On that basis, I voted a hesitant no. Youngsters will probably disagree and that's fair enough.

    I'll just add that I use a laptop to compose with occasionally so I can regard it as a kind of instrument. I use the software below, it is quite remarkable especially for someone like me who prefers writing on manuscript. (like I said, old school ).

    https://www.staffpad.net
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    No, that's like saying conducting is playing an instrument.

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    Yes, but it suits certain music genre more than others. This being a classical music forum, i would say it generally does not suit classical.

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