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    Slate magazine has a piece criticizing Hollywood for over-using certain Classical works. It's a video article and not very deep, but you may find it interesting.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/video/...ire_video.html

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    It's funny that they juxtaposed O Fortuna as an example of cliche with John Williams' music for Star Wars which is clearly inspired by that exact piece.

    I think that she misses the main problem, that we've typecast specific "sounds" into specific emotions and settings, losing out on the nuances of music in the process. "Choir+Orchestra=Big huge emotions and spectacle" is in itself a lazy way of approaching music for movies, regardless of whether you use the most obvious and abused exemplars or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahlerian View Post

    I think that she misses the main problem, that we've typecast specific "sounds" into specific emotions and settings, losing out on the nuances of music in the process. "Choir+Orchestra=Big huge emotions and spectacle" is in itself a lazy way of approaching music for movies, regardless of whether you use the most obvious and abused exemplars or not.
    I find that films using music to try and evoke tension / horror tend to build up the music to a crescendo at given points so the 'shock' of a cinematic moment is now as predictable as finding popcorn in Showcase. The films that genuinely scare me or provoke a sense of terror often have little or no background music (part of the reason many of the original J-horror films were so good and their American remakes so poor).

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    Atonal's perfect for horror movies and seldom remembered, save Psycho (1960).

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    However you think about it, it's good for record sales, I remember ( from a Philips salesman) they sold over 5000 copy's from Mahler 4, ( in one month ) used in a film called "De IJssalon

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    Many independent film studios are turning to royalty free music sites in search of background music. Sundial pictures recently licensed 2 songs from freemusicpublicdomain It's a smart move because it's as cheap as using public domain works but the music is much more updated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    However you think about it, it's good for record sales, I remember ( from a Philips salesman) they sold over 5000 copy's from Mahler 4, ( in one month ) used in a film called "De IJssalon
    And don't forget what Elvira Madigan (1967) did for sales of Mozart's 21st piano concerto. Unfortunately the concerto was then nicknamed after the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    The films that genuinely scare me or provoke a sense of terror often have little or no background music (part of the reason many of the original J-horror films were so good and their American remakes so poor).
    I agree what make them so special is the sense of mysterious calmness that got lost in the American remakes. I also don´t think the scariness is what makes them good instead I regard them as supernatural drama.

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