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    Default classical composer or musicians that did a faustian pact im dead sereous

    I recalled a blues man in the 1920 claim he sell his soul to the devil, this make me wonder if some classical composers did the same thing, anyone one of them confessed.

    Why i whant to know, well i want to exposed satanists fair and square, or bettter any proof a guy being caught pactizing whit the devil by witness.

    I actually beleive satan or the devil or an evil entity exist(if your japanese and christinanity is blurry to you try to think of the devil has an evil space alien).

    I have no living proof god exist but they could be angels, to me god is the cumulative of good in every man and woman of this world .

    So really dont know how people or gonna react to this one
    -atheist will scorn this
    -religious people may give me benefit of doupt
    -agnostic may or not like this

    I want to recalled , myself being attack by the wicked one(let's used euphemism) at least 3 time
    stuff i burried out of my mind since i dont wont to remenber this, otherwise i would have nightmares.
    Than that is all i got to says, im not on drugs, sober and everything

    p.s what were alister crowley favorite classical composer or a composer in his secret ''entourage''


    Have a nice day TC menbers and you folks that are satanists i pity you since you dont know satan nature(the devil has no human nature).

    Cheers from deprofundis everyone
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    Paganini, for sure! Quite possibly Liszt, though he repented.

    Mahler, Glass, Beethoven, Vaughan Williams, Wolfe, Liszt, Reich, Bach, Nyman, Schubert

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    Wow...lol.... so what did Liszt and Paganini do?

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    Paganini, for sure! Quite possibly Liszt, though he repented.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevum View Post
    Wow...lol.... so what did Liszt and Paganini do?
    Liszt always wears black clothes and had a pimple on his nose

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    wow...scary....lol.... Was he also friends with Tartini?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9FTlKK1e0


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    Liszt always wears black clothes and had a pimple on his nose
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    I'm not living in those atmospheres so I can not give you inside information,anyway I do not think this forum is the right place to discuss these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deprofundis View Post
    I recalled a blues man in the 1920 claim he sell his soul to the devil, this make me wonder if some classical composers did the same thing, anyone one of them confessed.

    Why i whant to know, well i want to exposed satanists fair and square, or bettter any proof a guy being caught pactizing whit the devil by witness.

    I actually beleive satan or the devil or an evil entity exist(if your japanese and christinanity is blurry to you try to think of the devil has an evil space alien).

    I have no living proof god exist but they could be angels, to me god is the cumulative of good in every man and woman of this world .

    So really dont know how people or gonna react to this one
    -atheist will scorn this
    -religious people may give me benefit of doupt
    -agnostic may or not like this

    I want to recalled , myself being attack by the wicked one(let's used euphemism) at least 3 time
    stuff i burried out of my mind since i dont wont to remenber this, otherwise i would have nightmares.
    Than that is all i got to says, im not on drugs, sober and everything

    p.s what were alister crowley favorite classical composer or a composer in his secret ''entourage''


    Have a nice day TC menbers and you folks that are satanists i pity you since you dont know satan nature(the devil has no human nature).

    Cheers from deprofundis everyone
    You should read Dr Faustus by Thomas Mann.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    You should read Dr Faustus by Thomas Mann.
    exactly! but then who was a prototype for this character of Dr Faustus ?

    I believe it was someone, but I forgot who.....

    Dr Faustus regardless his profession reminds me of Nietzsche for sure , well, roughly , but there is something in an atmosphere of a novel that makes one think in this direction...
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    a not very accessible book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traverso View Post
    a not very accessible book.

    what do you mean?
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    It is a grim book: Mann felt chased out of his familiar world, where Goethe, Shakespeare, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche had a place on Olympus. The main character, the composer Adrian Leverkühn, make a pact with the devil and swears off love to write the perfect masterpiece.

    The philosopher Nietzsche has been a part model for Leverkühn.
    This movie is also illuminating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traverso View Post
    It is a grim book: Mann felt chased out of his familiar world, where Goethe, Shakespeare, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche had a place on Olympus. The main character, the composer Adrian Leverkühn, make a pact with the devil and swears off love to write the perfect masterpiece.
    right. but I mean I´m interested who was a real protagonist, whom he had in mind while writing this book? or it was a protagonist with a mix of characteristics of several real people....

    because actually deprofundis was looking for a real person , not another Faust or Dr Faustus, well, I mean not fictional one

    and it´s difficult to think of one without making fun of some real existing composers, making assumptions, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by helenora View Post
    right. but I mean I´m interested who was a real protagonist, whom he had in mind while writing this book? or it was a protagonist with a mix of characteristics of several real people....

    because actually deprofundis was looking for a real person , not another Faust or Dr Faustus, well, I mean not fictional one

    and it´s difficult to think of one without making fun of some real existing composers, making assumptions, etc
    I do not think that Thomas Mann had a particular person in mind but more the political situation.I a way it is a warning to us all .
    There is not more evidence about the existence of devils or demons than in our own disturbed minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traverso View Post
    I do not think that Thomas Mann had a particular person in mind but more the political situation.I a way it is a warning to us all .
    There is not more evidence about the existence of devils or demons than in our own disturbed minds.
    yes, as they are in minds of composers, because their minds are even more disturbed than ours
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    Quote Originally Posted by helenora View Post
    yes, as they are in minds of composers, because their minds are even more disturbed than ours
    the greater the mind the greater the beast

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