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    Default Does music and religion really go together?

    I personally feel they should be separate, both express very different things. I can't speak for everyone, but I respect your thoughts

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    Actually, I see "Religious music" as a redundant phrase. The best time to listen to music is when I'm half-asleep so that the sounds and phrases produce corresponding simultaneous, unfiltered dream images. If anything, I get more "revelatory" images listening to Merzbow in that state than I do Bach even though pretty much everything Bach wrote was in service to the Lutheran church. The same thing happens when using psychotropic drugs to enhance the listening experience--I get as much of a religious experience from Jazz as I do a hymn. All music is religious. I see separating them into little isolated compartments to be counterproductive and a failure to make a fundamentally important connection to the universe, consciousness and existence. But that's just me.

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    Music and religion can go together. Sometimes there is some lovely choral work during Mass & I listen to it in a different way than I would to a secular song or, say, to a baroque piece that I might be listening to in a concert held in a church - that's the usual venue for a Norwich Baroque concert. I am appreciating the music but I am also blending it in with my own religious feelings. It is an aid to worship, not just a musical experience.

    I am not of course saying that music and religion have to go together or that an atheist couldn't enjoy the choral work as much as me - though s/he would be enjoying it in a different way.

    Music also 'goes together' with other things, such as romantic love or mourning. And other art forms can 'go together' with these emotions or themes, and with religion too. I suppose it must be possible for an atheist to appreciate the York Mystery Plays, say, and to put oneself mentally into the spirit of them to enjoy the texts and the acting and to 'live a little' in that space.

    In 'Paradise Lost' religion and poetry can go together, and atheists & believers alike read the poetry and savour the metaphysical ideas.

    An atheistic Handel-lover will probably put his/her existential stance aside in order to appreciate the way that the music and the religious texts and sentiments marry perfectly.

    For me, to say that religion and music can't go together is to limit both, and to limit one's own sensitivity. Saying that religion and music can go together is not the same as saying that they must go together, or that one must be formally religious in order to have a spiritual experience.

    Using one's imagination and powers of empathy one can go beyond oneself. I would recommend it.
    But horses for courses.
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    Does music and religion really go together?

    Of course they do, if you're religious.

    Of course they don't, if you're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amfortas View Post
    Does music and religion really go together?

    Of course they do, if you're religious.

    Of course they don't, if you're not.
    Hallelujah, praise Amfortas.

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    Is there anything music can't go with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Is there anything music can't go with?
    Music does not go with turnips. Trust me on this.


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    Does music and religion really go together?
    No.

    The question should be, "Do music and religion really go together?"

    And the answer is, "Yes."

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    I'm not sure that music is a necessary accompaniment to religion.

    Sacred music, whether heard in a religious service or elsewhere, can enhance the enjoyment of both the music and the service for people with a religious inclination. In such situations music and religion go together.

    For people who do not share the same religion, or have no religion at all, they might or might not enjoy sacred music. If they do enjoy such music, their appreciation of it probably won't be enhanced, or modified in any way, by the religious connotations of the music. In such situations music and religion do not go together.
    Last edited by Genoveva; Oct-05-2016 at 13:28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Music does not go with turnips. Trust me on this.

    As a turnip worshipper from North East Scotland, I take exception to this, Ken.

    The bagpipes go just fine with neeps, tatties and haggis on Burns Night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurnaboutVox View Post
    As a turnip worshipper from North East Scotland, I take exception to this, Ken.

    The bagpipes go just fine with neeps, tatties and haggis on Burns Night!
    Just what I was going to say!
    In fact, I'm not sure I could digest the neeps without the bagpipes getting my juices flowing.
    My fiddle my joy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurnaboutVox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Music does not go with turnips. Trust me on this.
    As a turnip worshipper from North East Scotland, I take exception to this, Ken.

    The bagpipes go just fine with neeps, tatties and haggis on Burns Night!
    Some might dispute whether the bagpipes constitute music.

    They have, however, no taste or appreciation of fine music.
    Music begins where words leave off. Music expresses the inexpressible.

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    Well, isn't religion basically a kind of music?
    All we like sheep

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    For a music-worshipper, music & religion are the same.
    My fiddle my joy.

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    Music and religion do go together. The scriptures constantly encourage the singing of "songs and hymns and spiritual songs." But music can also exist without religion.

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