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    This is from a documentary. The narration is edited out. Couldn't ID it with Shazam or Soundcloud.

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    Still haven't identified this....

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    Me neither, if I am honest, it could also be film score music.
    You saying it's from a documentary after all.
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    Doesn't ring a bell. Might be purpose-composed for the segment it was in.


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    Some of the harmonies are unusual enough for it to be possibly classical, but I certainly haven't come across it before. Sorry.

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    Thanks for the input. A few months ago I spoke with the person who made the documentary, but he doesn't remember what this music is, as he made the film over 25 years ago. The music did come from his CD collection. Initially he thought it sounded like Holst. I was thinking that it sounded like ballet or theatrical music; especially with that percussion. Also I have heard some pieces by Edouard Lalo that are similar. It's a mystery for sure.

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    I do think I notice a somewhat awkward splice fairly early in the selection. Perhaps it is more than one piece? It is very interesting that this piece apparently had a strong appeal to you, for you to seek it out. And I congratulate you on locating the person who made the documentary. (Does he still have that CD collection, or at least recall some favorite pieces that he might have chosen?) Might it have been from an LP? I don't think there was anything like the range or variety of CDs 25 years ago.

    (Just out of curiosity, what is the documentary about?)

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    It's the same piece, I just edited out the narration when I made the clip. That's the splice you hear. The recording could possibly be from an LP. He couldn't recall that particular music segment, unfortunately, when I talked with him. I even e-mailed him a clip of it.

    The documentary is about Amtrak at the 20 year mark (1991). Here is a company that sells it. They are not the actual producer of the video.

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    It also sounds like a ballet/dance piece to me, one that is trying to portray either a peasant dance or ethnic dance (Native American, Chinese)---there's some musical kinship to Borodin's Polovtsian Dances, but only in the musical material that was used by many to convey the exotic atmosphere of the steppes of Central Asia or Hiawatha's wilderness.

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    It's very familiar to me and I revisit this every one in a while but nothing pops into my head. I'm pretty sure it's Russian. I also think it is a dance, but whether from a ballet or an opera (or maybe just an orchestral suite), I don't know. The first (very wrong) thing that popped into my mind was Dance of the Persian Slaves from Khovanshchina. I was wrong, but I still think that may be the right track.
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    Thanks for all of the replies, so far.

    I uploaded a 3 1/2 minute clip of this documentary that contains the music and narration (unedited) to see if that adds anything to the discussion.




    This is the music I have ID'ed so far from the entire documentary:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...5uUJpN55QzNHVF
    As you can see, it is a very eclectic selection!

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    Thank you for posting the whole video. I wish it helped, but I can't say it did.

    I haven't documented my search like you have yours, but I've gone through a lot of Rimsky-Korsakov, Borodin, some Kalinnikov, Gliere, Khachaturian, and Glinka. All to no avail. So I've pretty much given up on Russian composers. I'm now trying French (although I can't say why).

    This is very frustrating because the music is so familiar to me, but from very long ago. Since others on this forum are unfamiliar with the piece I assume it's not something I heard on the radio a lot. Therefore, I suspect I have a recording of it somewhere.
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    Could be Scandinavian too, depicting folkmusic. Listen to Atterbergs ballet De fåvitska jungfrurna Op17; that is not it, but a good comparison. The Amtrak clip’s markedly ‘Bolerian’ sway of melody (it not wanting to land on tonic just yet) would be un-folklike, as also the hocket rhythm. American with Swedish roots?

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    I realized what it reminds me of---the Siamese Cat song from "Lady and the Tramp." Maybe it's the same composer???

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhgliere View Post
    I realized what it reminds me of---the Siamese Cat song from "Lady and the Tramp." Maybe it's the same composer???
    Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart, I hope you are kidding.

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