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    Quote Originally Posted by znapschatz View Post
    No fan here, either. As a Baker Street Irregular (the Sherlock Holmes fan club), I have a reverence for the original stories that may have clouded my perception of this concept, a modern day Sherlock Holmes, but I'm an old fashioned guy in that respect. Big problem is, there is no way to update the Conan Doyle tales without disrupting the time/space continuum. This one is lots of irritating whiz bang directed to the perceived reduced patience of contemporary audiences. I hate cynical commercially designed "product." Something like Star Wars, high class candy for its intended viewers, is okay. It's true to its intensions. Sherlock is crap.
    Ditto.

    I watched The Musgrave Ritual, with Jeremy Brett, to get the taste out of my mouth. Now, what a faithful rendition that is, but also, the story isn't sensationalist, lurid, insane, childish, etc. It's terrible to compare, but of course, sometimes we require an antidote to some things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran View Post
    Ditto.

    I watched The Musgrave Ritual, with Jeremy Brett, to get the taste out of my mouth. Now, what a faithful rendition that is, but also, the story isn't sensationalist, lurid, insane, childish, etc. It's terrible to compare, but of course, sometimes we require an antidote to some things...
    [The Musgrave Ritual, a Holmes story, is also the oath of passage into "The Baker Street Irregulars," a worldwide Sherlock Holmes fan club. I took it first in Cleveland when I became a member of "The Creeping Men," a scion society chapter, and again in Los Angeles, where the chapter was called "The Sherlock Holmes Society," (not very imaginative, but...) My favorite name for a chapter was that of Cincinnati, "The Scandalous Bohemians." Each scion chapter was supposed to have been named after a Holmes adventure, but there was leeway after there were more chapters than tales. Originally, the BSI was restricted to men, but that was before my time (some guys left to form "Mrs. Hudson's Boarders," a boys-only club, but they were few and pathetic.)

    Our activities in L.A. consisted of occasional get-togethers where once we dressed up like famous criminals, victims, detectives or cops. I went as Porfiry Petrovitch (Crime and Punishment,) my wife as Charlotte Corday, and our son as Monsieur Verduex. On other occasions, we had guest speakers, who included Nigel Bruce, Watson in the Basil Rathbone series; Rue McClanahan, who had a small role in They Might Be Giants; and three members of the Firesign Theater, solely because they had released an album entitled The Giant Rat of Sumatra, a reference to an adventure that was referred to in the stories but never written (Conan Doyle was such a tease .) My wife and I were seated at their table. A fun group, they were stoned to their eyeballs (truth be told, they weren't the only ones .) Among our members was Nicholas Meyer, who received support and advice from club members while writing his Holmes novel, The Seven Percent Solution, later made into a rather successful movie.
    Fun times.
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    In reply to earlies posts. I agree Game of Thrones overall is fantastic and I'm very much looking forward to season 7.
    Haters are gonna hate anyway, but this show has done some unprecedented things in television history. The vast and detailed story arc with a multitude of individual storylines and characters, it's simply on a scale never seen before... and somehow they get away with it quite convincingly. Some individual episodes have raised the bar for TV in its entirety, such as Hardhome (IMDB rating: 9,9). I've rarely been so excited and on the edge of my seat by any TV show, or movie for that matter.

    About Sherlock: too bad, I was about to start watching that one.

    My rating for Planet Earth II: 10/10. What else?

    Did anyone see Westworld? Looking for something new to watch.

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    My wife and I just finished 2 seasons of Salem and now we're watching the OA. Always waiting for Game of Thrones to have all the latest episodes on HBO so we can have "a marathon" Have to wait until autumn...

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    For non-network shows, The Code, 3%, and the The Crown. Other recommendations: Orphan Black, Luther, The Killing, The Fall, Goliath, Occupied, The Man in the High Castle, Mad Dogs, Dicte, Wallander (Swedish version), The Tunnel, Black Mirror, The Assets, Department Q, Paranoid, Broadchurch, The Night of...the list goes on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by znapschatz View Post
    [B][The Musgrave Ritual/B], a Holmes story, is also the oath of passage into "The Baker Street Irregulars," a worldwide Sherlock Holmes fan club. I took it first in Cleveland when I became a member of "The Creeping Men," a scion society chapter, and again in Los Angeles, where the chapter was called "The Sherlock Holmes Society," (not very imaginative, but...) My favorite name for a chapter was that of Cincinnati, "The Scandalous Bohemians." Each scion chapter was supposed to have been named after a Holmes adventure, but there was leeway after there were more chapters than tales. Originally, the BSI was restricted to men, but that was before my time (some guys left to form "Mrs. Hudson's Boarders," a boys-only club, but they were few and pathetic.)

    Our activities in L.A. consisted of occasional get-togethers where once we dressed up like famous criminals, victims, detectives or cops. I went as Porfiry Petrovitch (Crime and Punishment,) my wife as Irene Adler, and our son as Monsieur Verduex. On other occasions, we had guest speakers, which included Nigel Bruce, Watson in the Basil Rathbone series; Rue McClanahan, who had a small role in They Might Be Giants; and three members of the Firesign Theater, solely because they had released an album entitled The Giant Rat of Sumatra, a reference to an adventure that was referred to in the stories but never written (Conan Doyle was such a tease .) My wife and I were seated at their table. A fun group, they were stoned to their eyeballs (truth be told, they weren't the only ones .) Among our members was Nicholas Meyer, who received support and advice from club members while writing his Holmes novel, The Seven Percent Solution, later made into a rather successful movie.
    Fun times.
    Ah that's amazing, and you actually met the incredible Nigel Bruce, who brought his own inimitable spin to playing Doctor Watson. I imagine he was a great gem of a gentleman.

    I actually saw the film, The Seven Percent Solution, and looking it up now I see that Charles Gray played Mycroft there too, as well as in the Jeremy Brett adaptaion of Sherlock Holmes.

    Are those clubs still active?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepR View Post
    In reply to earlies posts. I agree Game of Thrones overall is fantastic and I'm very much looking forward to season 7.
    Haters are gonna hate anyway, but this show has done some unprecedented things in television history. The vast and detailed story arc with a multitude of individual storylines and characters, it's simply on a scale never seen before... and somehow they get away with it quite convincingly. Some individual episodes have raised the bar for TV in its entirety, such as Hardhome (IMDB rating: 9,9). I've rarely been so excited and on the edge of my seat by any TV show, or movie for that matter.

    About Sherlock: too bad, I was about to start watching that one.

    My rating for Planet Earth II: 10/10. What else?

    Did anyone see Westworld? Looking for something new to watch.
    Oh, don't pass it up on account of bad reviews here. I yield to no one in my dislike of this show, but in matters of taste, people should make up their own minds. There are some who like it (misguided, but that's my prejudice,) you might, too. Just saying.
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    As usual, marvelous story, z.

    FWIW Nigel Bruce and Hollywood Cricket Club photos. Bottom photo, Flynn made the Club's road trip with Bruce.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran View Post
    Ah that's amazing, and you actually met the incredible Nigel Bruce, who brought his own inimitable spin to playing Doctor Watson. I imagine he was a great gem of a gentleman.

    I actually saw the film, The Seven Percent Solution, and looking it up now I see that Charles Gray played Mycroft there too, as well as in the Jeremy Brett adaptaion of Sherlock Holmes.

    Are those clubs still active?
    Yes, Nigel Bruce was indeed all that, everything you would have expected of him. Everybody loved him, one of the favorite guests we had.

    Frankly, after having left Los Angeles almost 40 years ago, I had little contact with any of our fellows there. My Cleveland friend (dating back to high school) who had brought me into the Creeping Men chapter years earlier, told me that the last meeting of the club had been the one I had attended before leaving for Los Angeles, so that was that, and there isn't one in Columbus, where I now live. I don't know what the status of the BSR is anymore, I regret to say.

    Addendum: the Cleveland guy was a classical music buff who had in high school introduced me to the joys of chamber music, Bartok, and whole bunch of other stuff, including photography, for which I have been and continue to be grateful. Now retired, he was for years the photographer for the Cleveland Museum of Natural History. Through a backstage tour of that facility, he introduced my wife and me to Donald Johanson, the anthropologist who discovered the remains of Lucy, then the oldest known hominid.
    She got her name because Johanson was listening to the Beatles' Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds on his tape player when the discovery was made. And I got to touch Lucy's leg bone.

    I'm telling you, I am blessed to have some remarkable friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    As usual, marvelous story, z.

    FWIW Nigel Bruce and Hollywood Cricket Club photos. Bottom photo, Flynn made the Club's road trip with Bruce.



    Great find! Are this original prints or from a published source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by znapschatz View Post
    Great find! Are this original prints or from a published source?
    These and others are available via Google Images. Some years ago online, I came across the Vancouver photo when reading about Errol Flynn's death in that city. The other I found today via the aforementioned search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znapschatz View Post
    Yes, Nigel Bruce was indeed all that, everything you would have expected of him. Everybody loved him, one of the favorite guests we had.

    Frankly, after having left Los Angeles almost 40 years ago, I had little contact with any of our fellows there. My Cleveland friend (dating back to high school) who had brought me into the Creeping Men chapter years earlier, told me that the last meeting of the club had been the one I had attended before leaving for Los Angeles, so that was that, and there isn't one in Columbus, where I now live. I don't know what the status of the BSR is anymore, I regret to say.

    Addendum: the Cleveland guy was a classical music buff who had in high school introduced me to the joys of chamber music, Bartok, and whole bunch of other stuff, including photography, for which I have been and continue to be grateful. Now retired, he was for years the photographer for the Cleveland Museum of Natural History. Through a backstage tour of that facility, he introduced my wife and me to Donald Johanson, the anthropologist who discovered the remains of Lucy, then the oldest known hominid.
    She got her name because Johanson was listening to the Beatles' Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds on his tape player when the discovery was made. And I got to touch Lucy's leg bone.

    I'm telling you, I am blessed to have some remarkable friends.
    I’m sure they all feel similarly blessed to have known you!

    I must say, I loved the old Holmes films with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce. I grew up on them! And Bruce was a treasure as his version of Watson. Hilarious at times, too. I’m so glad to read that he was every bit the gent and great company in real life. And there he is with Errol Flynn! Great photos…
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    My wife and I started watching the PBS series "Victoria" last night. After Episode 1, I'm a little skeptical of the actress playing Victoria, but we will see how it goes in future episodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    For non-network shows, The Code, 3%, and the The Crown. Other recommendations: Orphan Black, Luther, The Killing, The Fall, Goliath, Occupied, The Man in the High Castle, Mad Dogs, Dicte, Wallander (Swedish version), The Tunnel, Black Mirror, The Assets, Department Q, Paranoid, Broadchurch, The Night of...the list goes on!
    Yow! I haven't known of even one of these! Are they available on US television?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran View Post
    I must say, I loved the old Holmes films with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce. I grew up on them! And Bruce was a treasure as his version of Watson. Hilarious at times, too. I’m so glad to read that he was every bit the gent and great company in real life. And there he is with Errol Flynn! Great photos…
    I, too, was first exposed to the good old sleuth by those movies, and was imprinted to consider Rathbone the one who most looked like Sherlock, basically the one born to play the role. Of those, only one of them was set in the Victorian era, The Hound of the Baskervilles., but my favorite was The Spider Woman. In it was one great scene with Rathbone and Gayle Sondergaard in the title role. It wasn't long, but the dialogue crackled. Good stuff!
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