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    This is a question I asked myself a few years ago when I was bored. The answer I always end up at is...

    Imagine you're a composer tasked with writing a TV show theme that:

    1. Captures the show perfectly and is instantly recognizable.
    2. Makes the jump from TV to radio.
    3. Outlives the show by decades.
    4. Obtains world-wide popularity and recognizability.
    5. Must do all this in 5/4

    This could only be considered a "Mission: Impossible".

    I think the close second is the "Vier letzte Liede" by Strauss as they truly were the last four songs of the Romantic period.

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    Well if the names are appropriate and descriptive they are anything but ironic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dim7 View Post
    Well if the names are appropriate and descriptive they are anything but ironic.
    You know what he means.

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    Only if the irony of the name is why the name was given. In which case, I think they'd still be ironic. The contrivance however, would make the name far less interesting.
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    Beethoven's Emperor concerto. His publisher gave it that nickname.

    The nickname seems (unintentionally) ironic to me. Beethoven was furious when Napoleon became emperor. He would never have chosen to write a concerto in honor of an emperor.

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    George Grove claims that the nickname arose during an early performance, when an "old campaigner" rose to his feet during the first movement and cried, "L'Empeurer!" A nice story, at least.

    When Beethoven heard about Napoleon's death, he said, "I have already written the music for that disaster," probably referring to the funeral march in the Eroica. He seems to have been of two minds about Nappy.
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    Oh......nice.....I can't believe I never put two and two together on that.

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    Vivaldi's Four Seasons. Should have been named "Four filler pieces to take us up to four hourly newscasts on Classical Public Radio".
    Facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoBunny View Post
    Oh......nice.....I can't believe I never put two and two together on that.
    You see, one always learns something valuable on this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoBunny View Post
    Only if the irony of the name is why the name was given. In which case, I think they'd still be ironic. The contrivance however, would make the name far less interesting.
    Nope. A case of "Nomen est omen" is not irony. Rather an interesting coincidence, if anything. If I started a project called "Mission impossible" but it turned out to be something incredible easy and done in two seconds, THAT would be a case of irony (in addition to being an interesting coincidence as well).

    I am rarely a linguistic prescriptivist but when words are used basically in the opposite meanings that's a bit problematic IMO.
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    Another case of non-irony: I changed my username to Dim7 in 2009 because of the Diminished 7th chord, not thinking about the association of "dim" with "stupid", though it did occur to me quickly after the username change. In December 2014 I came back here and found the thread "Stupid Thread Ideas". Now I have 1439 posts in that thread (and was for many months the most prolific poster in it until hpowders reclaimed that position very recently).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dim7 View Post
    Another case of non-irony: I changed my username to Dim7 in 2009 because of the Diminished 7th chord, not thinking about the association of "dim" with "stupid", though it did occur to me quickly after the username change. In December 2014 I came back here and found the thread "Stupid Thread Ideas". Now I have 1439 posts in that thread (and was for many months the most prolific poster in it until hpowders reclaimed that position very recently).
    I'm glad you cleared that up. I took the "dim" literally. I fell asleep in Music 107: "Music theory for prolific, pithy posters".
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    Arcangelo Corelli: Angel of Cords.
    Giuseppe Torelli: Joseph(English for Giuseppe) of Trumpet.

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    I'd steal that and post it at the Shower-Thoughts sub-Reddit but most of the members there are musical philistines.

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