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    You-know-who plays with Berio's Sinfonia this week, but I wish he'd quit calling it Symphony.

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/tom...ia-tom-service

    Too bad BBC never released Pappano's Sinfonia. Here's a Proms 4 review way back in 2007...

    http://www.musicalcriticism.com/conc...rom-4-0707.htm


    Just ordered Eotvos'. Boulez' has been gathering dust....never liked the sonics on that one. Interp is maybe a wee-dated, also.

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    Berio is a very interesting composer. Since he was an Italian he was very good composing for the voice. His Sequenzas are also most definitely repertoire pieces. I haven't heard much of his works for keyboard instruments or that much of his chamber works. So what should I try out?

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    The 2nd piano concerto Echoing Curves is quite accessible, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdsong88 View Post
    Berio is a very interesting composer. Since he was an Italian he was very good composing for the voice. His Sequenzas are also most definitely repertoire pieces. I haven't heard much of his works for keyboard instruments or that much of his chamber works. So what should I try out?
    Visage, and the Sinfonia, Coro, Bewegung, Eindrücke and the String Quartets!

    I especially like his electro acoustic works!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdsong88 View Post
    Berio is a very interesting composer. Since he was an Italian he was very good composing for the voice. His Sequenzas are also most definitely repertoire pieces. I haven't heard much of his works for keyboard instruments or that much of his chamber works. So what should I try out?
    I certainly couldn't agree more with you, Birdsong, about Berio being a very interesting composer! I'm not so sure I see the connection with him being Italian and being good at composing for the voice, though. Only one of his Sequenzas is actually for voice, and I do believe other composers have an equally interesting approach (Stockhausen, Wishart, Viñao ...). Anyway, nice to see Luciano getting a positive mention on this forum. Keep it up!

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    Also check out his Folk songs, and his orchestrations of other composer's works, e.g. the clarinet concerto he created from one of Brahms' clarinet sonatas.
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    I love the Sequenzas. He arranged some of them for different instrumentation which only adds to their interest for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elgars ghost View Post
    I love the Sequenzas. He arranged some of them for different instrumentation which only adds to their interest for me.
    I'm sorry if I seem to be "picky", EG, but it's news to me that he arranged some of them for different instrumentation. As far as I know, he wrote completely different "sequenzas" for different instruments. Are you saying, for example, that he arranged Sequenza III (for voice) for another instrument? I would find that hard to imagine.

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    I was perhaps getting a little excited. In fact, I think he only arranged two of them himself. On my recording there are alternative arrangements of VII (oboe) and IX (clarinet) for soprano sax and alto sax respectively. On top of that (but not on my recording), there is an extra arrangement of IX for bass clarinet and there was also an arrangement of XIV ('cello) for double bass, albeit by somebody else, which I remember seeing on youtube.
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

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    I've finally listened to SOLO (I'm on a bit of a trombone fetish/kick/thing). Love at first listen!

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    Ah, this thread is a good old blast from the past. Reading Mirror Image's posts and remembering how silly he could be... it's like applying some nice, bracing aftershave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukecash12 View Post
    Ah, this thread is a good old blast from the past. Reading Mirror Image's posts and remembering how silly he could be... it's like applying some nice, bracing aftershave.
    But would you invite him to dinner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalkingHead View Post
    I certainly couldn't agree more with you, Birdsong, about Berio being a very interesting composer! I'm not so sure I see the connection with him being Italian and being good at composing for the voice, though. Only one of his Sequenzas is actually for voice, and I do believe other composers have an equally interesting approach (Stockhausen, Wishart, Viñao ...). Anyway, nice to see Luciano getting a positive mention on this forum. Keep it up!
    Berio's use of voice is pretty interesting. I'm Italian but I'm not defending him because of that He was an expert of phonetics: to get pleasure, his voice pieces must be heard also taking in account of that. Anyway, I've come here to link this video:



    you can't say he is not able to write melodies and create taking atmospheres.

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    Luciano Berio Documentary: Voyage to Cythera (dir. Frank Scheffer)

    A profile of Berio. It includes interesting interviews with the composer, as well as cameos by other distinguished musicians. Its main focus is on Sinfonia, which it presents as an interpretation of the revolution in music inaugurated by Mahler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blancrocher View Post


    Luciano Berio Documentary: Voyage to Cythera (dir. Frank Scheffer)

    A profile of Berio. It includes interesting interviews with the composer, as well as cameos by other distinguished musicians. Its main focus is on Sinfonia, which it presents as an interpretation of the revolution in music inaugurated by Mahler.

    I just have to watch this when I get some more time!
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