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    Default 21st century "lieder"?

    Any contemporary composers who work in this field -- outside the pop and jazz idiom? (Not necessarily in German, of course.)

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    i dont know of much 21st century stuff, but there's some really good stuff from Ned Rorem, Roger Quilter, Vaughan Williams, Barber, and Bernstein (all 20th century).

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    Many modernists have written song cycles.. not necessarily with piano accompaniment. Ferneyhough's Etudes Transcendantales (although written in the late 20th century) are a good example of such a cycle.
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    I echo the Rorem thought. he is always working on something.

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    Pierrot Lunaire is the first thing that springs to mind. Then there's Le Marteau sans Maitre (possibly).

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    Definitely. It's equally legitimate as Pierrot Lunaire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bach View Post
    Definitely. It's equally legitimate as Pierrot Lunaire.
    Indeed. It's amazing. My only reservation was that it also includes strictly instrumental movements.

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    Well, yes - I suppose it does - but what a piece! *sings opening flute phrase*
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    Quite! Plus the third movement - proof of the singability of serially-derived melody! (Admittedly it's of a very sophisticated kind - multiplication etc. If only Schoenberg had such a device when writing the rather awkward lines of Von Heute auf Morgen...)

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    Kaija Saariaho resorts to female voices in many of her works. Quatre instants counts as 21th century lieder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YsayeOp.27#6 View Post
    Kaija Saariaho resorts to female voices in many of her works. Quatre instants counts as 21th century lieder.
    I have Château de l'âme.

    The Tempest Songbook also appears to be worth checking out, though I don't have it.

    Webern's Lieder are also definitely worth checking out (though the title is at times misleading, for example his op. 19 Lieder are for chorus).

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    Berio's Sequenza for voice is a very interesting piece I find and can easily exploit the various emotions, sometimes of great hillarity, in fact I was doubled up laughing at a rendition of some Cage arias. There must be a point contemporary singers must cross whereby they don't find what they perform totally hillarious!
    When all the paint has been dried, when all the stone has been carved, music shall remain, and we shall work with what remains.

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