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    Quote Originally Posted by Blancrocher View Post
    Joël Bons' "Nomaden" has recently won the Grawemeyer competition. ...
    I just listened to the entire work on this BIS recording (on Naxis Music Library).

    71szgaNKnTL._SX522_.jpg

    When I started reading about the work, I was a bit skeptical because it uses a large number of non-Western instruments (Turkish kemençe, the Chinese erhu, the Indian sarangi, Chinese sheng, Azeri tar and kamancha, segah, setar, etc.) along with Western instruments (notably the cello). But I simply loved this work.

    Obviously there's a mix of "unconventional" timbres, but the mix seems to work wonderfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    When I started reading about the work, I was a bit skeptical because it uses a large number of non-Western instruments (Turkish kemençe, the Chinese erhu, the Indian sarangi, Chinese sheng, Azeri tar and kamancha, segah, setar, etc.) along with Western instruments (notably the cello). But I simply loved this work.

    Obviously there's a mix of "unconventional" timbres, but the mix seems to work wonderfully.
    I feel the same. I'm going to re-listen sometime in the next week to see if my feeling changes--some of the sounds are really lovely and striking, though I wonder if I'll be tempted to shuttle between different favorite parts (as I sometimes do with works composed of miniatures). In any case, I really enjoyed hearing the work. I'm curious to hear some of the composer's work for guitar, which is his specialty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blancrocher View Post
    I feel the same. I'm going to re-listen sometime in the next week to see if my feeling changes--some of the sounds are really lovely and striking, though I wonder if I'll be tempted to shuttle between different favorite parts (as I sometimes do with works composed of miniatures). In any case, I really enjoyed hearing the work. I'm curious to hear some of the composer's work for guitar, which is his specialty.
    According to sheerpluck.de, mr. Bons wrote music for guitar before 1995. Are any guitar pieces missing there?
    https://www.sheerpluck.de/composer-342-joel-bons

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    I just listened to the entire work on this BIS recording (on Naxis Music Library).

    71szgaNKnTL._SX522_.jpg

    When I started reading about the work, I was a bit skeptical because it uses a large number of non-Western instruments (Turkish kemençe, the Chinese erhu, the Indian sarangi, Chinese sheng, Azeri tar and kamancha, segah, setar, etc.) along with Western instruments (notably the cello). But I simply loved this work.

    Obviously there's a mix of "unconventional" timbres, but the mix seems to work wonderfully.
    I find it interesting.

    There is this commentary on the work by the composer. He makes a pretty suprising admission, I thought, from 1:00 to 1:30 on contemporary music.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kcYbIpbxcs
    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    I just listened to the entire work on this BIS recording (on Naxis Music Library).

    71szgaNKnTL._SX522_.jpg

    When I started reading about the work, I was a bit skeptical because it uses a large number of non-Western instruments (Turkish kemençe, the Chinese erhu, the Indian sarangi, Chinese sheng, Azeri tar and kamancha, segah, setar, etc.) along with Western instruments (notably the cello). But I simply loved this work.

    Obviously there's a mix of "unconventional" timbres, but the mix seems to work wonderfully.
    Sounds like my kind of work, gonna hunt it down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    I find it interesting.

    There is this commentary on the work by the composer. He makes a pretty suprising admission, I thought, from 1:00 to 1:30 on contemporary music.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kcYbIpbxcs
    From the numerous and different clips available on YouTube, it seems an attractive piece. Perhaps it is a little Stravinskian? Certainly, it took me back to music from the first half of the 20th century (a pleasant enough journey) and it is nice not to get neo-Romanticism which is what I was expecting listening on your clip to Bons saying that contemporary music lacks emotion. He says he never cries listening to contemporary music but, if Nomaden is supposed to move us to tears, I think it fails in this. For me, too much of the work draws on and mixes up relatively undigested "world music". I like lots of "world music" but don't need to find it repeated so literally in new classical music.

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    Nomaden is a very enjoyable work. It may fit in Cantaloupe catalogue very well. However, although I am very fond of unusual instruments (including invented ones) used in Western classical works, this sounds like an assorted package of world music instruments. Personally, I prefer when a composer concentrates on one or few instruments, drawing out its characteristic and potential. The composer's comment about contemporary music is very odd. I am not sure what kind of music he has in his mind. I think the contemporary classical has the widest range of emotions, from super sober to extreme sentimentality, grimness, joy, and so on.

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    A recent thread about a Guardian list of the 25 best works of the 21st century:

    Best 25 works of this century?

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    Another Timbre on Bandcamp
    All the releases of Another Timbre are now available on bandcamp, both physical CD (except for some OOP) and download. The catalogue includes a lot of interesting music: Canadian composers series, Wandelweiser, free improvisation, Feldman, Cage, Eastman, Lamb, and so on.

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