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    Question Your TOP 5 Wagner recordings?

    Your favorites..........
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

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    1 - 55 Keilberth Ring
    2 - 53 Krauss Ring (must be Pristine XR remaster)
    3 - 61 Lohengrin (sawallisch)
    4 - 62 Parsifal (Knap)
    5 - 52 Tristan (HVK)







    I notice a trend, all golden age Bayreuth performances..........
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    1 - Solti Ring
    2 - Boulez '77 Ring
    3 - Kna' '57 Ring
    4 - Bohm Tristan
    5 - Solti Parsifal

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    Kempe Lohengrin
    Solti ll Meistersinger
    Kubelik Meistersinger
    Solti Ring
    Keilberth 55 Ring
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

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    55 Keilberth Ring
    Solti Ring
    53 Krauss Ring (Pristine)
    50 Furtwängler Ring (Pristine)
    Kubelik Meistersinger since I really need some non-Ring on my list.
    Hours of unrecorded, unpublished and unknown Beethoven works at The Unheard Beethoven

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    Tannhauser - Solti
    Lohengrin - Kempe
    Parsifal - Knappertsbusch
    Meistersinger - Kubelik
    Tristan - Furtwangler

    Yes, no Ring but too many Rings that I wouldn't be without for various reasons hence its omission.
    "...it is said that first your heart sings, then you play. I think if it is not like that, then it is only just combination of notes, isn't it? " - Pandit Nikhil Banerjee, Master of the Sitar.

    ‘When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!‘

    ‘Common sense is not a gift, it's a curse. Because you have to deal with people who don't possess it!’

    I must go down to the sea again, the lonely sea and the sky.
    I left my vest and socks there, I wonder if they’re dry?

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    Solti Ring
    Bohm Tristan
    Barenboim Tristan
    Barenboim Tannhauser
    Karajan Parsifal

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    Ring - Solti
    Tristan - Bernstein.
    Tannhauser - Solti.
    Parsifal - Karajan
    Lohengrin -Keilberth ( Joseph)

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    cd_wag_par_knapp_2.jpg

    1962 Knappertsbusch Parsifal

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    Furtwängler Tristan und Isolde

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    1955 Keilberth Der Ring des Nibelungen

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    Kubelik Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg

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    Kempe Lohengrin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faustian View Post
    cd_wag_par_knapp_2.jpg

    1962 Knappertsbusch Parsifal

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    Furtwängler Tristan und Isolde

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    1955 Keilberth Der Ring des Nibelungen

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    Kubelik Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg

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    Kempe Lohengrin
    If we'd been allowed six then the Keilberth '55 Ring would have made it in then with the exception of Tannhauser we would have been the same. Ah, great minds, great minds. But as my grandma always reminded me, fools seldom differ. Can't win them all.
    "...it is said that first your heart sings, then you play. I think if it is not like that, then it is only just combination of notes, isn't it? " - Pandit Nikhil Banerjee, Master of the Sitar.

    ‘When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!‘

    ‘Common sense is not a gift, it's a curse. Because you have to deal with people who don't possess it!’

    I must go down to the sea again, the lonely sea and the sky.
    I left my vest and socks there, I wonder if they’re dry?

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    Walkure, Act 1 - Walter '35
    Tristan und Isolde - Furtwangler '52
    Ring - Furtwangler '50
    Parsifal - Knappertsbusch '51
    Meistersinger - Abendroth '43

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    My top five Wagner Recordings are:

    Hollander conducted by Sinopoli (for the Dutchman)
    Hollander conducted by Klemperer (for Silja as Senta)
    Goodall's ring (for sung in English)
    Sawallisch's Ring and/or Levine's Ring (for Behrens' Brunnhilda)
    Swarowsky's ring (for prominent vocals)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    My top five Wagner Recordings are:

    Hollander conducted by Sinopoli (for the Dutchman)
    Hollander conducted by Klemperer (for Silja as Senta)
    Goodall's ring (for sung in English)
    Sawallisch's Ring and/or Levine's Ring (for Behrens' Brunnhilda)
    Swarowsky's ring (for prominent vocals)
    Interesting choices and even more interesting reasons for those choices! As provocative as ever Flo!
    "...it is said that first your heart sings, then you play. I think if it is not like that, then it is only just combination of notes, isn't it? " - Pandit Nikhil Banerjee, Master of the Sitar.

    ‘When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!‘

    ‘Common sense is not a gift, it's a curse. Because you have to deal with people who don't possess it!’

    I must go down to the sea again, the lonely sea and the sky.
    I left my vest and socks there, I wonder if they’re dry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    Interesting choices and even more interesting reasons for those choices! As provocative as ever Flo!
    I may be the first one who didn't pick from five different operas. I do like three other Wagner operas (Lohengrin, Meistersinger, and Parsifal), but don't have strong preference on certain recordings. I believe my Hollander choices also give me both endings, Sinopoli having the redemption ending. I selected Sinopoli after searching high and low for a Dutchman who moved me like McIntyre in the Sawallisch video. But no Senta on CD gets it like Silja (I have both Klemperers, live and studio) as all the others have an annoying part in the ballad where she does her first piercing high note where they will (and I don't know what it is called, but) trill, whereas Silja enters that high note cleanly. The trill or whatever it is called ruins it for me.
    Last edited by SixFootScowl; Mar-17-2017 at 13:55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    My top five Wagner Recordings are:

    Hollander conducted by Sinopoli (for the Dutchman)
    Hollander conducted by Klemperer (for Silja as Senta)
    Goodall's ring (for sung in English)
    Sawallisch's Ring and/or Levine's Ring (for Behrens' Brunnhilda)
    Swarowsky's ring (for prominent vocals)
    Florestan, here's a bit of Wagner recording trivia for you from John Culshaw's Ring Resounding, since you like the Klemperer Dutchman: Ernst Kozub, who is the Erik in that production (at least in the EMI version; there's another obscure recording with pretty much the same cast but without Kozub), was Culshaw's first choice to do Siegfried in the Solti Ring. Kozub had a great heldentenor voice, according to Culshaw, but had never performed the part. He was nevertheless engaged by Decca since he said he would learn the role. But when the time came for recording, Kozub had spent all of his time touring and hadn't in fact learned the part, and the results were disastrous. Nilsson was only available for a few days to record the big duet at the end Act III of Siegfried, and otherwise she would not be able to return for over a year. Solti worked with Kozub extensively, and they got an unsatisfactory Wanderer/Siegfried confrontation with Hotter on tape, but they reluctantly concluded there was no way Kozub could hold his own with Nilsson. Faced with the entire project tanking, Culshaw went begging to Wolfgang Windgassen, who could have certainly turned him down given his schedule and the utter lack of notice (not to mention the serious snub of Culshaw not going to Windgassen in the first place in favor of a relative unknown). But Windgassen was eager to have his Siegfried be preserved as part of the project, and he ignored his agent who wanted to make demands, made room in his schedule and only required that when it came time to do Götterdämmerung that he be asked to reprise the part. Culshaw, desperate and facing ruin, was only too happy to agree to that, and the project proceeded. Kozub was apparently relieved to be relieved of his duties.

    Culshaw doesn't name Kozub, since the tale reflects badly on him; his identity was however an open secret. But it later turned out that Kozub was actually dying at the time, and never could have done the part. He apparently persuaded himself that he was up to it, while meanwhile performing as much as he could to make money for an estate. The Erik in that Dutchman recording is probably the most prominent role Kozub put on record, as I understand it. So go back and listen to it again, and see if you can imagine him as Siegfried.
    Hours of unrecorded, unpublished and unknown Beethoven works at The Unheard Beethoven

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