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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Sorry about that, I couldn't stop myself.

    You should try this, I think it's very good (in op 106 for example)

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    I always see this at my local record store, there's a used copy for about $4, I always almost buy it and end up passing it up. Your mild recommendation has pushed me over the edge. Next time I hit up that store I will be getting this. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    I always see this at my local record store, there's a used copy for about $4, I always almost buy it and end up passing it up. Your mild recommendation has pushed me over the edge. Next time I hit up that store I will be getting this. Well done.
    The Peter Serkin fortepiano cycle of the late sonatas is on YouTube in its entirety if you want to check it out. I recommend it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    I always see this at my local record store, there's a used copy for about $4, I always almost buy it and end up passing it up.
    If I saw this priced at $4, I'd buy it in order to have a second copy, just in case I were to misplace the first one. This set is terrific - better, I think, than Serkin's recordings on a modern piano.

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    Also on YouTube Annie Fischer's late 70s set. A good thing if like me you don't have a hundred dollars to spare for the CDs.

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    Brendel on Philips 1970s

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    Can someone tell me of a Hammerklavier played at an extremely slow tempo...? In András Schiff’s lecture he described how it was common for pianists to play the first movement much slower than indicated, some even playing it at half speed. And by the way, just go ahead and check his lecture on it if you haven’t already. Extremely illuminating.

    I think it sounds way better when played as fast as humanly possible, à la Schnabel. I’m just asking out of curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    Can someone tell me of a Hammerklavier played at an extremely slow tempo...?.

    You may be interested in this even though it's old now

    https://simpk.de/en/5_autograph_temp...a%94_1321.html

    It misses some obvious ones (Nikolayeva, for example, takes the first movement slowly, as does Sokolov, Aimard, Glen Gould, Bernard Roberts, Emil Gilels, Frederic Rzewski (at least in elapsed time), Ernst Levy, Backhaus, Loriod, Lucchesini, Jumppanen . . . )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    You may be interested in this even though it's old now

    https://simpk.de/en/5_autograph_temp...a%94_1321.html

    It misses some obvious ones (Nikolayeva, for example, takes the first movement slowly, as does Sokolov, Aimard, Glen Gould, Bernard Roberts, Emil Gilels, Frederic Rzewski (at least in elapsed time), Ernst Levy, Backhaus, Loriod, Lucchesini, Jumppanen . . . )
    Nikolayeva and Gould are indeed on the list, in last place Leave it to Gould... I'll have to hear his recording. Thanks for the link, this is fascinating.

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    I think you should listen to the Rzewsky, it’s got a lot of improvisation in it, but put that aside, the inflections - dynamic inflections and ornamentation - make the music very poetic in the first movement. It’s on YouTube,

    Personally I can’t bear the Schnabel, not because it’s fast or because he loses control, but because he really bangs his way through it, gauche, inelegant, fast and loud. If you want a fast first movement, maybe try Michael Korstick or Beveridge Webster.

    By the way, I discovered a really good recording of it today in sound terms by a pianist who is new to me, Mindru Katz. He was a star in Israel, died young in the 1970s.

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    I love the Schnabel. Gauche, inelegant? Are we listening to the same recording?!

    I'll have to check out some of these pianists you name that I've never heard of. You're either hip to a lot of performers that are completely forgotten by most, or I'm just too young.

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    Jon Sakata is another one well worth hearing IMO

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