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    I found this thread because I was looking for a portable player to listen to classical music. I had a first gen FiiO X1 but the battery has become swollen and I don't want to spend $30 to replace it. I have an iPod that's still working, but I connect a FiiO E6 to it to give it fuller sound. And I don't use iPhones.

    That said, I'm thinking of just using a cheap Android phone with an external card slot to add more memory, but I don't know anything about the internal DAC. In any event, I want to avoid having to deal with hard-to-find parts and consider something with an interface that I can customize easily, choose from different types of software if needed, and which I can attach to a PC and move around sound files.
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    I'm too old to be listening to MP3s. I only have so much time left to listen to music, and it must be at the highest resolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralfy View Post
    I found this thread because I was looking for a portable player to listen to classical music. I had a first gen FiiO X1 but the battery has become swollen and I don't want to spend $30 to replace it. I have an iPod that's still working, but I connect a FiiO E6 to it to give it fuller sound. And I don't use iPhones.

    That said, I'm thinking of just using a cheap Android phone with an external card slot to add more memory, but I don't know anything about the internal DAC. In any event, I want to avoid having to deal with hard-to-find parts and consider something with an interface that I can customize easily, choose from different types of software if needed, and which I can attach to a PC and move around sound files.
    I use my Samsung S8. Poweramp to play files and I've started to RIP my cds as Flac files. I have a pair of Sony wf1000xm3 ear buds that work really well.

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    Honestly, I'm really happy with my iPod Touch. I pair it with my Sony WH-1000XM3 wireless noise-canceling headphones, and it is wonderful. I have an Apple Music account, and stream quite a bit (I can download anything if I want it available offline). This works great for me.

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    I also listen to MP3s on my iPhone. I have an old iPhone 4 (not even S) who I use for my Sony alarm clock which is ancient (2008) and does still have the old Apple connector. But it works great for waking up with your favourite piece of classical music (that's the only thing you can still do with an iPhone 4):


    On the road I listen to MP3 on my iPhone Xr (and in my car I have a built in player with a USB drive for MP3, so no bluetooth there).

    I am no Apple fan but for phones and music listening they are IMO the most convenient.

    For the rest it's CDs and (for pop) also vinyl.
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    Thanks to everyone who gave recommendations. I found these two articles and they give similar:

    https://www.loudersound.com/features...ones-for-music

    https://www.loudersound.com/features...it-all-budgets

    In addition, others at Reddit recommended an LG V30 for a cheap phone that can do similar. Apparently, LG did a good job with the onboard DAC, with Samsung and Apple also doing fine.

    The other article mentions the Sony headphones as the first choice, and it's mentioned several times in this thread. I'm thinking of just using my old in-ear Sennheiser first because the over-ear phones look bulky.

    Finally, to Rainbows, I think one reason for using MP3s involves long trips and going out of town, which might make bringing disks and using portable CD players challenging. Ripping to good-quality MP3s and using a phone or player with a good DAC might be a helpful alternative.
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    Looks that if the Tech service doesn't fix my old phone's bootloop, I'll need to get myself a new MP3/MP4 player. Fortunately I've found a way to equalize my new phone's sound so I can listen well to Spotify audio without finding it dull.



    I just need an MP3/MP4 that is proven to work correctly, not only for one year. AND with a Micro-SD card slot. There are less and less manufacturers. Probably the FIIO M3K, which I found for a fine price, would work, but I don't know if I really would use it in all its potential because I've never look for great sound quality. Most of my files are 192kbps and my Classical Music rips are MP3 at 320kbps. Which brands do you know that work well these years? Both Audiophile and standard.

    Specially interested in the German market because I often search in German sites...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    Looks that if the Tech service doesn't fix my old phone's bootloop, I'll need to get myself a new MP3/MP4 player. Fortunately I've found a way to equalize my new phone's sound so I can listen well to Spotify audio without finding it dull.



    I just need an MP3/MP4 that is proven to work correctly, not only for one year. AND with a Micro-SD card slot. There are less and less manufacturers. Probably the FIIO M3K, which I found for a fine price, would work, but I don't know if I really would use it in all its potential because I've never look for great sound quality. Most of my files are 192kbps and my Classical Music rips are MP3 at 320kbps. Which brands do you know that work well these years? Both Audiophile and standard.

    Specially interested in the German market because I often search in German sites...

    FIIO players have always been plagued by not supporting gapless playback, which disqualifies them 100% for classical; far too mamy classical recorcings require gapless playback. Even the percentage requiring gapless playback is only 2% - 3%, that is still 2-3 of every 100 recordings yhat cannot be enjoyed with that player.

    I stopped paying attention to their players 4-5 years ago because every time the said they "fixed" their software to support gapless playback there was no change. I don't think their desigers or engineers have a clue, or they don't care about it.

    Has anyone specifically tried gapless playback with any of the newest FIIO players, and if so what were the results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmathuln View Post
    Has anyone specifically tried gapless playback with any of the newest FIIO players, and if so what were the results?
    I don't know about FiiO's newer players but I have an 8-yr old first gen X3 that supports gapless playback. The only thing that puzzles me is that gapless playback is a feature that can be turned on/off in the menu. I always wonder why anybody would want to turn it off. Note: while the X3's gapless playback works perfectly with lossless files, I've never put lossy files on it so I have no idea how the X3's gapless playback works with them.

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    Check Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gapless_playback), not every lossy format supports gapless playback so maybe that's the reason of your experience. If you use lossless format like flac (my preference) then it definitely should work unless vendor doesn't care about the customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmathuln View Post
    FIIO players have always been plagued by not supporting gapless playback, which disqualifies them 100% for classical; far too mamy classical recorcings require gapless playback. Even the percentage requiring gapless playback is only 2% - 3%, that is still 2-3 of every 100 recordings yhat cannot be enjoyed with that player.

    I stopped paying attention to their players 4-5 years ago because every time the said they "fixed" their software to support gapless playback there was no change. I don't think their desigers or engineers have a clue, or they don't care about it.

    Has anyone specifically tried gapless playback with any of the newest FIIO players, and if so what were the results?
    Gapless playback has never been a problem for me. With either my original X1, or X3 Mark III. Perhaps I should mention I use FLAC almost exclusively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki View Post
    I don't know about FiiO's newer players but I have an 8-yr old first gen X3 that supports gapless playback. The only thing that puzzles me is that gapless playback is a feature that can be turned on/off in the menu. I always wonder why anybody would want to turn it off. Note: while the X3's gapless playback works perfectly with lossless files, I've never put lossy files on it so I have no idea how the X3's gapless playback works with them.
    From Wikipedia:

    "Some other formats do not officially support gapless encoding, but some implementations of encoders or decoders may handle gapless metadata.

    LAME-encoded MP3 can be gapless with players that support the LAME Mp3 info tag.[5]"

    That is consistent with what I've read elsewhere.

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