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    Default I need a new MP3 player - advice, please!

    My player (an IRiver from 2007) died last night and I'd like to replace it but find the choice confusing.

    I like:
    - easy to use
    - switches on/off (and stays switched off when its crammed in a pocket)
    - when switched back on, resumes where it left off
    - has 'hold' facility so it doesn't switch 'off' or move to next track when touched
    - can alter volume when in 'hold' position
    - has clear and easy catalogue system (I only use classical music)
    - gapless - so no awkward jumps between tracks in operas
    - reasonable battery life
    - switches off automatically when the 'album' ends
    - SD card to increase memory

    I don't need - headphones (have these already) or facility to access pictures, books, videos, Bluetooth, internet, etc etc etc

    I would pay up to £200 but happy with (far) less. Its mainly used when travelling - so on planes, in airports, in hotels and ONLY for classical music

    any advice, please?
    "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Berlioz, 1856

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    Hmm, I haven't bought an MP3 player in a long time. Right now, I just use my wife's old iPhone 4S. I had an iPod Touch, but gave it to my son, because it was older and couldn't do podcasts. My wife got a new iPhone 6, so I got her old phone to use just as an MP3 player. It does most of what you want, and if you put it in airplane mode (I don't use it as a phone), the battery lasts an awful long time. Only things it doesn't do - no hold, but you can turn off the screen and nothing can be accidentally "bumped"; no SD card slot (one of the things I can't stand about Apple products. I'm pretty happy with the way iTunes can sort albums.

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    I have a Sansa Clip with 4GB internal memory and a 16GB micro SD. They make them with twice that capacity. They cost around $40-60 IIRC. I got mine on clearance a couple years ago for $20 I like it a lot but it does not meet all your criteria:

    Y- easy to use
    Y- switches on/off (and stays switched off when its crammed in a pocket)
    Y- when switched back on, resumes where it left off
    Y- has 'hold' facility so it doesn't switch 'off' or move to next track when touched
    Not sure because I use external volume control- can alter volume when in 'hold' position
    Y if you go by folders like I do- has clear and easy catalogue system (I only use classical music)
    N it definitely has a gap between tracks- gapless - so no awkward jumps between tracks in operas
    Y and can run on car 12 volt when driving and still listen- reasonable battery life
    N. Stops playing but stays on for a set time then if not used will turn off.- switches off automatically when the 'album' ends
    Y- SD card to increase memory

    Bonus: it has a nice big clip on the back to clip to your Tshirt.



    I have this Gigaware splitter plugged into it. It had dual jacks and dual volume wheels.
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    Thanks to Florestan and Ekim .... but more opinions, please!!!
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    I just bought an Onkyo DX-1. It's pricey but suppossed to be able to compete with the likes of Astell &Kern. So far (I've had it for 2 days) it has totally flummoxed me. My kids had to help me load some music on it and I have no idea how to advance tracks. It uses the Android Operating system and there is a touch screen that looks like you are supoossed to touch the tracks to get them to play but either there must be a different way to do it or the thing is broken. I've played exactly one track on it and can't figure out out to
    get off of that one track as it is not advancing automatically. I also am unimpressed by the sound. My tracks are high resolution and frankly my iphone sounds better playing mp3. I will try to read the manual this weekend but when something doesn't work intuitively in this day and age it leaves me unimpressed. I suspect that this will be returned prior to the 30 day trial period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    I have a Sansa Clip with 4GB internal memory and a 16GB micro SD. They make them with twice that capacity. They cost around $40-60 IIRC. I got mine on clearance a couple years ago for $20 I like it a lot but it does not meet all your criteria:

    Y- easy to use
    Y- switches on/off (and stays switched off when its crammed in a pocket)
    Y- when switched back on, resumes where it left off
    Y- has 'hold' facility so it doesn't switch 'off' or move to next track when touched
    Not sure because I use external volume control- can alter volume when in 'hold' position
    Y if you go by folders like I do- has clear and easy catalogue system (I only use classical music)
    N it definitely has a gap between tracks- gapless - so no awkward jumps between tracks in operas
    Y and can run on car 12 volt when driving and still listen- reasonable battery life
    N. Stops playing but stays on for a set time then if not used will turn off.- switches off automatically when the 'album' ends
    Y- SD card to increase memory

    Bonus: it has a nice big clip on the back to clip to your Tshirt.



    I have this Gigaware splitter plugged into it. It had dual jacks and dual volume wheels.
    My previous MP3 players were Sansa brand. They also had the advantage of being able to play some of the better audio formats, like Ogg Vorbis, but I never used that, as those files were so large. My plain ears can't tell the difference between 160 kbps MP3 and CD, so I go with that, and can hold quite a bit.

    I wonder how much longer the single purpose MP3 player industry will survive, when already many of our phones will do what MP3 players can do, and so much more. I suspect that they are on their way out, and will become a very niche market. Steve Jobs killed them when he decided that an MP3 player should also be able to place phone calls and run apps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekim the Insubordinate View Post
    I wonder how much longer the single purpose MP3 player industry will survive, when already many of our phones will do what MP3 players can do, and so much more.
    Yes - I suppose I could cave in and pay for extra cloud storage on my I-phone SE but I'm one of the luddites who resist the monopolisation. Sigh!
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    I've put new drives in my broken iPods. I plan to keep them working as long as I can. They are perfect for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headphone Hermit View Post
    Yes - I suppose I could cave in and pay for extra cloud storage on my I-phone SE but I'm one of the luddites who resist the monopolisation. Sigh!
    A luddite with an iPhone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jos View Post
    A luddite with an iPhone
    Sigh!

    exposed for talking rubbish .... again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Headphone Hermit View Post
    Sigh!

    exposed for talking rubbish .... again
    No, you're not talking rubbish:-), but I never have had a dedicated mp3 player, just went straight from the portable tape/CD players to a phone--but an Android platform with micro SD capability. That way it's easy to swap out SDs, which I can write to with the computer in or out of the device, or to use other formats such as lossless FLAC files with a decent player app.

    Of course, that may be too much to ask of an iPhone user!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Headphone Hermit View Post
    My player (an IRiver from 2007) died last night and I'd like to replace it but find the choice confusing.

    I like:
    - easy to use
    - switches on/off (and stays switched off when its crammed in a pocket)
    - when switched back on, resumes where it left off
    - has 'hold' facility so it doesn't switch 'off' or move to next track when touched
    - can alter volume when in 'hold' position
    - has clear and easy catalogue system (I only use classical music)
    - gapless - so no awkward jumps between tracks in operas
    - reasonable battery life
    - switches off automatically when the 'album' ends
    - SD card to increase memory

    I don't need - headphones (have these already) or facility to access pictures, books, videos, Bluetooth, internet, etc etc etc

    I would pay up to £200 but happy with (far) less. Its mainly used when travelling - so on planes, in airports, in hotels and ONLY for classical music

    any advice, please?
    I have a FiiO x3ii that fits the bill.

    1. It copies the design of the classic ipod and is easy and intuitive to use.
    2. It has a power switch that takes a long press to turn on and off.
    3. It resumes to the nearest second or track based upon your preference.
    4. Hold option is not an issue, it's a scroll wheel design and doesn't have a touch screen.
    5. It can navigate by folder structure, I impose my own structure for easy navigation. I can find even a single Haydn symphony or Bach cantata in well under a minute.
    6. It's gapless on playback of flac and mp3.
    7. 30 hour battery life.
    8. It doesn't autoplay the next album.
    9. I use a 200 GB microsd card to hold my collection in flac on the player.

    Other things not on your list it has a serious amplifier. Like it can power nearly all of my headphones. Most mp3 players and all smartphones can't do that. It also has a line out and a digital out for use with external dac and amps. I love it, it's one of my favorite electronics purchases in the past five years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydnfan View Post
    I have a FiiO x3ii that fits the bill.

    1. It copies the design of the classic ipod and is easy and intuitive to use.
    2. It has a power switch that takes a long press to turn on and off.
    3. It resumes to the nearest second or track based upon your preference.
    4. Hold option is not an issue, it's a scroll wheel design and doesn't have a touch screen.
    5. It can navigate by folder structure, I impose my own structure for easy navigation. I can find even a single Haydn symphony or Bach cantata in well under a minute.
    6. It's gapless on playback of flac and mp3.
    7. 30 hour battery life.
    8. It doesn't autoplay the next album.
    9. I use a 200 GB microsd card to hold my collection in flac on the player.

    Other things not on your list it has a serious amplifier. Like it can power nearly all of my headphones. Most mp3 players and all smartphones can't do that. It also has a line out and a digital out for use with external dac and amps. I love it, it's one of my favorite electronics purchases in the past five years.
    Thanks, Haydnfan! I'll investigate this when I get back from my next trip
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    Quote Originally Posted by haydnfan View Post
    I have a FiiO x3ii that fits the bill.
    With it's huge capacity for file storage (200 GB Micro SD) I would buy this in an instant, but I have come to rely 100% on the clip feature of my Sansa and am afraid I would have no way to carry this. I always have my Sansa clipped to my undershirt with the volume wheel haning off it and the earbud cord routed under my shirt and only poking out the collar to my ear. Works great for me and easy volume adjustments.
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    I swear by the Sony NWZ-A17 MP3 player. Its a highres player that works superbly with my Shure SV-425 in ear monitors, my Marshall Kilburn Bluetooth speaker (a great kickass combo).
    I also use the USB connection to my Kenwood car head... And it also sounds wonderful! Check it out!

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