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  • Abbado: Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Vienna State Opera Choir

    3 8.57%
  • Barenboim: Chor der Deutschen Staatsoper Berlin & Staatskapelle Berlin

    0 0%
  • Bodanzky: Metropolitan Opera Orchestra and Chorus (1935 live recording)

    0 0%
  • Böhm: Vienna State Opera Chorus & Orchestra (1965 live recording)

    1 2.86%
  • Bychkov: WDR Sinfonieorchester Köln, WDR Rundfunkchor Köln

    0 0%
  • Janowski: Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester und Chor

    0 0%
  • Karajan: Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Chor der Deutschen Oper Berlin

    0 0%
  • Kempe: Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Vienna State Opera Choir

    19 54.29%
  • Keilberth: Bayreuth Festival Chorus & Orchestra (1953 live recording)

    3 8.57%
  • Kubelik: Bavarian Radio Chorus & Orchestra

    2 5.71%
  • Leinsdorf: Metropolitan Opera Orchestra and Chorus (1942 live recording)

    0 0%
  • Sawallisch: Bayreuth Festival Chorus & Orchestra (1962 live recording)

    3 8.57%
  • Solti: Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Vienna State Opera Choir

    1 2.86%
  • Other

    3 8.57%
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Thread: Favorite recording of Lohengrin: Poll

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    Default Favorite recording of Lohengrin: Poll

    Alright ladies in gents, we're on to Lohengrin. Which silvery voiced hero really floats your swan boat?

    I find it very very difficult to vote against the justly praised Kempe studio recording myself.

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    Voted for the Kubelik with King and Janowitz, although if the Matacic with Konya and Grummer were listed, that would also be a very close contender.

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    The Kempe Lohengrin - probably my favorite Wagner recording.

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    Last edited by SixFootScowl; Mar-24-2017 at 02:22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonTemplar View Post
    The Kempe Lohengrin - probably my favorite Wagner recording.
    I will not rock the boat.......this recording has it all, the best swan knight I have ever heard in Jess Thomas, Grummer for me is the best Elsa (and Eva - meister) in her prime, I was really surprised how well Ludwig does Ortrud since she almost never plays the sinister parts......but she is realy great here, other parts well done and Kempe does not let us down with his ROH and Bayreuth Ring experiences to draw from.....

    The live 62 Sawallisch Bayreuth comes very close to this level also with Jess Thomas, a great Ortrud with Astrid, and Sawallisch actually edges out Kempe for me for the music end.....if not for the noises and sound level variations of live recording this could also be my first choice

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    Keilberth: Bayreuth Festival Chorus & Orchestra (1953 live recording)
    Steber as Elsa

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    The studio Kemp is superb, probably should be the reference for everyone.

    The other day I was wandering on Spotify and encountered a fantastic Lohengrin with Keilberth. I would argue that the prime Eleanor Steber is an even better Elsa than Grummer, and Varnay sounds sinister throughout than the rounded-tone Ludwig. Lohengrin may suit the like of Konya and Thomas better, but the young Windgassen delivers nevertheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentio View Post
    The other day I was wandering on Spotify and encountered a fantastic Lohengrin with Keilberth. I would argue that the prime Eleanor Steber is an even better Elsa than Grummer, and Varnay sounds sinister throughout than the rounded-tone Ludwig. Lohengrin may suit the like of Konya and Thomas better, but the young Windgassen delivers nevertheless.
    That's another really great one, 1953 was Windgassen's debut season at Bayreuth so he is in freshest voice, Varnay & Uhde are reference level performances, ZYX again delivers at budget price level...




    although if the Matacic with Konya and Grummer were listed, that would also be a very close contender
    Another great one for sure, probably the best Konya Lohengrin available along with 58 Cluytens......


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    When Kubelik is a choice for Wagner, he's usually the correct answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentio View Post
    The studio Kemp is superb, probably should be the reference for everyone.
    The Kempe is really exceptional and would be my favorite version but for the extremely unpleasant performance as the Herald from Otto Wiener. Normally this is a small enough role that any halfway decent performer would be just fine with me but his nasal and querulous whine immediately breaks the spell for me every time.

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    The Kempe is a landmark recording, one that almost all Wagnerians can agree to being first-rate, even if it's not their top choice. This recording feels so much more natural than most studio recordings, and Kempe is a great, lyrical Wagner conductor who here delivers a wonderfully shaped and colored account. Elisabeth Grümmer is the most moving of Elsas, Jess Thomas manages an other-worldliness few singers of the role can achieve, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau is efficiently villainous and Christa Ludwig is simply towering in her malevolent depiction of Ortrud. I consider Kubelik's to be just a notch below the Kempe among studio efforts, and the other recordings that come closest to matching Kempe for me are the 1953 Keilberth and the 1962 Sawallisch. The Keilberth has a great all-around cast, and Hermann Uhde's anguished and subtle Telramund is a standout for me here. I think Sawallisch's account in 1962 benefits a lot from the stereo sound however, and Astrid Varnay is no less demonic than she was in 1953. I also find Anja Silja's interpretation of Elsa to be quite fascinating. She's not as radiant as Eleanor Steber was under Keilberth, but she has more personality than most Elsas, seeming outraged at the charges brought against her, not just pained and helpless.

    I don't think many other releases can contend with these, but I do want to give a little recognition to the recent Lohengrin under Semyon Bychkov which is characterized by passionate conviction on the part of the conductor, and a lovely performance from Johan Botha. It also includes the second verse of 'In fernem Land', so that's an interesting addition. It is also superbly recorded, and I think takes a place among the great sets of the past.
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    ^^^ Great stuff there, I am with you 100% on those Lohengrin comments, I have acquired some other great hard to find live Jess Thomas Lohengrins at operadepot that may also interest you.....

    64 Keilberth


    65 Bohm also a real winner (Ludwig again as ortrud)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    ^^^ Great stuff there, I am with you 100% on those Lohengrin comments, I have acquired some other hard to find live Jess Thomas Lohengrins at operadepot that may also interest you.....

    Great cover art!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    ^^^ Great stuff there, I am with you 100% on those Lohengrin comments, I have acquired some other great hard to find live Jess Thomas Lohengrins at operadepot that may also interest you.....

    64 Keilberth


    65 Bohm also a real winner (Ludwig again as ortrud)

    Ahh... must... buy...

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    ^^^^ Ludwig as Ortrud - 65 Bohm, come closer dear Elsa I am here to help you ha ha.......


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