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    Quote Originally Posted by Luchesi View Post
    "... it was really metal that picked up that banner and ran with it."

    Yes, that's how I see it too. Do you think there wasn't any more that could done in prog rock? It's been an intriguing question, namely, will we run out of innovative styles and melodies? Has it all been done?
    No, I absolutely think more could've been done with prog rock, and more WAS done by bands like King Crimson and Pink Floyd. The problem was the changing times: bands, audiences, and tastes. The success of prog rock in the 70s angered some people who thought rock music had gotten too far away from its primal roots. So in the late 70s you had the birth of punk music, and, combined with the emergence of disco and new wave/synth-pop, they effectively forced prog-rock out of the mainstream, and the prog bands reacted differently to this. Bands like Yes and Genesis shuffled/lost members and changed their sound to fit with the times, and ended up with the biggest commercial successes of their careers. Pink Floyd stayed the course and stayed successful. King Crimson kept being as weird as ever and just incorporated those influences into their sound. Many other bands either broke up naturally, continued on in the underground, or tried to change and failed horribly (Jethro Tull). Metal came out of a similar underground as punk, but unlike the way punk evolved into the more mainstream-friendly forms of post-punk, metal evolved the other way, towards the complexities of prog. There was already some of this in the 70s with Judas Priest, especially, hinting at the future of the genre.

    There has been periodic resurgences of neo-prog rock since the 80s. Marillion was probably the biggest band that comes to mind, but you also have bands like Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, and Transatlantic--the latter being a prog-rock supergroup made up of members of those bands plus Dream Theater. They all have some good music, even if it no longer actually sounds "progressive." Two favorites would be:


    (on the last one, song is only 10:30, no idea why there's so much dead air at the end).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrahmsWasAGreatMelodist View Post
    9. Stevie Wonder - (Innervisions, Songs in the Key of Life) (is this too much of a stretch?)
    Putting anything by Stevie Wonder on a "best of" list is never a stretch. (Ok, maybe the "Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants" wasn't his magnum opus...) The man is brilliant!

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    I never really understood the appeal of the Rolling Stones until I saw them do a live concert (I wasn't there, I was watching on HBO, but with all the TV monitors they now have at modern arenas, I'm not sure there's that much of a difference). Their act doesn't translate to the studio as well as many of the other iconic rock bands.
    I feel the exact opposite for the Rolling Stones. I have a friend who is a Stones fanatic and gave me umpteen "live" recordings of them (I have all studio recordings). I think they are HORRIBLE live. In fact, I saw their Steel Wheels tour at Shea Stadium (Former Mets stadium in NYC). It was by far the worst sounding concert I have ever been to. It was as if, every one of their amps were blown out, but they said, "Well, we have a show to do, so let's use them anyway."

    I can't say much more for all the live recordings my friend gave me. The lyrics are completely unintelligible, the sound quality is horrendous, and overall, they just sound like crap live. The live concert I went to was a good "performance" but horrible sound quality. Having been to a few hundred concerts from being a tour manager and traveling all over the world with rock bands and orchestras, I know good live sound when I hear it. The Stones were the furthest thing from that. As well as almost every live recording I have from them.

    Now, with all that said... I really like the Stones.

    My favorite list so far that anyone gave is Eva Yojimbos. Not because I am necessarily simpatico with her list, but anyone who has Dylan, Bjork, Iron Maiden, Taylor Swift, Megadeath, XTC, Prince, Cocteau Twins (wow), & Tom Waits all on the SAME list is OK in my book. Talk about diverse!!!!!! Kudos Eva!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varick View Post
    Putting anything by Stevie Wonder on a "best of" list is never a stretch. (Ok, maybe the "Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants" wasn't his magnum opus...) The man is brilliant!



    I feel the exact opposite for the Rolling Stones. I have a friend who is a Stones fanatic and gave me umpteen "live" recordings of them (I have all studio recordings). I think they are HORRIBLE live. In fact, I saw their Steel Wheels tour at Shea Stadium (Former Mets stadium in NYC). It was by far the worst sounding concert I have ever been to. It was as if, every one of their amps were blown out, but they said, "Well, we have a show to do, so let's use them anyway."

    I can't say much more for all the live recordings my friend gave me. The lyrics are completely unintelligible, the sound quality is horrendous, and overall, they just sound like crap live. The live concert I went to was a good "performance" but horrible sound quality. Having been to a few hundred concerts from being a tour manager and traveling all over the world with rock bands and orchestras, I know good live sound when I hear it. The Stones were the furthest thing from that. As well as almost every live recording I have from them.

    Now, with all that said... I really like the Stones.

    My favorite list so far that anyone gave is Eva Yojimbos. Not because I am necessarily simpatico with her list, but anyone who has Dylan, Bjork, Iron Maiden, Taylor Swift, Megadeath, XTC, Prince, Cocteau Twins (wow), & Tom Waits all on the SAME list is OK in my book. Talk about diverse!!!!!! Kudos Eva!!!!

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    The Stones is one of those bands, one in a hundred, -- you have to know the life stories of Jagger and Richards. What they were doing... What they thought about the Beatles-type bands! What they 'found' in pop with guitar (blues) gimmickry. And most importantly the times that they used as a jumping off platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varick View Post
    My favorite list so far that anyone gave is Eva Yojimbos. Not because I am necessarily simpatico with her list, but anyone who has Dylan, Bjork, Iron Maiden, Taylor Swift, Megadeath, XTC, Prince, Cocteau Twins (wow), & Tom Waits all on the SAME list is OK in my book. Talk about diverse!!!!!! Kudos Eva!!!!

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    Thanks so much! Yes, I'm a musical omnivore and I make no bones about it... unless whatever I'm devouring happens to be bony. Right now my playlist consists of all 104 of Haydn's symphonies, Scriabin's complete works, Boulez recordings of Schoenberg, live recordings of Miles Davis and John Coltrane, Chvrches, and Carly Rae Jepsen.

    I'm a he by the way. Eva is short for Neon Genesis Evangelion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varick View Post
    Putting anything by Stevie Wonder on a "best of" list is never a stretch. (Ok, maybe the "Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants" wasn't his magnum opus...) The man is brilliant!

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    The only reason I said it was a stretch is because this thread is titled "Top 10 best ROCK albums..." and I'm not sure if these albums (or the artist) can really be classified into that genre.
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    I guess I shouldn't post at all if I can't be on topic but others have had relaxed interpretations of the rules, so I'll follow along. For this post on "Top 10 Best Rock Albums," I'm defining "album" as "a collection of previously unreleased studio songs" (no live/compilation albums). I'm defining "rock" as "almost every form of rock-like music." (As great as they are, I can't call Jarre's Oxygene or Equinoxe "rock" but I can call a lot of stuff "rock.") I'm defining "best" as "I love it" (no objective claim at all). Finally, I define "top 10" as "50 of the upper non-recent albums I put on a list today." I really tried but 10 is flatly impossible and anything short of at least one or two hundred is still a compressed distortion which is unfair to a lot of worthy albums. My limiting criteria was no more than one album per artist but in cases where it was hard to decide, I mention the main problems in parentheses (not that the other albums by a given band might not also be great but sometimes the top album was a clearer choice).

    • AC/DC - Back in Black (Highway to Hell)
    • The Allman Brothers Band - The Allman Brothers Band (Idlewild South - I have Beginnings on CD which would solve the problem but that's a compilation)
    • The B-52's - The B-52's
    • Black Sabbath - Sabotage (the first three, especially)
    • Butthole Surfers - Independent Worm Saloon
    • Carcass - Heartwork
    • Cat Power - The Greatest
    • Concrete Blonde - Concrete Blonde (Mexican Moon)
    • Corrosion of Conformity - Deliverance (Wiseblood | Animosity)
    • The Cramps - Psychedelic Jungle (particularly the CD version w/Gravest Hits on it which includes "Domino" and "The Way I Walk," etc. - tough call between it and especially Songs the Lord Taught Us)
    • The Cult - Sonic Temple (Electric)
    • Death Angel - Act III (The Ultra-Violence)
    • Dire Straits - Dire Straits
    • The Doors - The Doors (L. A. Woman)
    • Eurythmics - 1984 (Sweet Dreams)
    • Faith No More - Introduce Yourself (The Real Thing)
    • Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction
    • Heart - Dreamboat Annie
    • The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced?
    • Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden (Killers)
    • Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
    • Jefferson Airplane - Crown of Creation (or basically all pre-Starship records from them or the various permutations of their members)
    • Joan Jett - Glorious Results of a Misspent Youth (Up Your Alley)
    • Janis Joplin - I Got Dem Ol' Kozmic Blues Again Mama! (Pearl)
    • Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny (Stained Class | Screaming for Vengeance)
    • L7 - Bricks Are Heavy (Smell the Magic)
    • Led Zeppelin II (the other five of the first six)
    • Love and Rockets - Express
    • Lynyrd Skynyrd - Pronounced (Second Helping | Street Survivors)
    • Mary's Danish - American Standard
    • Mercyful Fate - Melissa
    • Metallica - Kill 'Em All
    • Ministry - Psalm 69
    • Misfits - Walk Among Us
    • Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here (Dark Side of the Moon | The Wall - though Animals really is under-rated)
    • Ramones - Ramones (Leave Home)
    • The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers (anything from the amazing '68-'72 period, or even '64-'81 except Black and Blue)
    • Rush - A Farewell to Kings (not that the other side's bad but if 2112 had been a concept album instead of a side, it would have been a fierce competitor)
    • Santana - Santana (Abraxas and the second Santana)
    • Sepultura - Arise (Beneath the Remains)
    • Michelle Shocked - Captain Swing (Short, Sharp, Shocked)
    • Siouxsie and the Banshees - Juju (A Kiss in the Dreamhouse | Hyaena | Peepshow - all of it, really)
    • Slayer - Reign in Blood
    • Patti Smith - Easter (Horses)
    • The Stooges - Raw Power
    • Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses
    • Van Halen - Van Halen (all of the others from the first six except Fair Warning (which is still okay))
    • Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes
    • White Zombie - La Sexorcisto: Devil Music, Vol. 1
    • The Who - Who's Next


    Incidentally, speaking of live albums and compilations, some of my favorite live albums (which I can almost get down to ten) are:

    • AC/DC - If You Want Blood You've Got It
    • The Allman Brothers Band - At Fillmore East
    • Blue Oyster Cult - Some Enchanted Evening (On Your Feet or on Your Knees)
    • The Cramps - Smell of Female
    • Deep Purple - Made in Japan
    • Jimi Hendrix - The Jimi Hendrix Concerts
    • J. Geils Band - "Live" Full House
    • Lynyrd Skynyrd - One More from the Road
    • MC5 - Kick Out the Jams
    • Rainbow - On Stage
    • Ramones - It's Alive
    • Slayer - Decade of Aggression
    • The Who - Live at Leeds


    Some of the above are both live and compilations. Some studio compilations I couldn't live without (another baker's dozen rather than ten) are:

    • Alien Sex Fiend - The Singles 1983-1995 (Fiend at the Controls Vol. 1 & 2)
    • The Animals - The Complete Animals [bad title: actually just "The Essentially Complete '64-'66 Recordings"]
    • Blondie - The Platinum Collection
    • Chuck Berry - The Great Twenty-Eight
    • The Clash - The Essential Clash
    • The Cramps - Bad Music for Bad People
    • Elvis - The Complete 50s Masters
    • Jimi Hendrix - First Rays of the New Rising Sun (another posthumous reshuffling of material for "the fourth studio album" but the best shot at it)
    • Misfits - Misfits (Collection II)
    • The Rolling Stones - The Singles Collection
    • Siouxsie and the Banshees - Downside Up (Once Upon a Time | Twice Upon a Time)
    • The Sisters of Mercy - Some Girls Wander by Mistake
    • Link Wray - Rumble! The Best of Link Wray

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