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    Quote Originally Posted by ContrapunctusXIII View Post
    My lucky 11. Bobby Fuller Four gets first place.
    The Bobby Fuller Four were from El Paso, Texas. The Clash really worshipped them. I met The Clash in Lubbock when they played there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    Yes, I notice that you have Chuck Berry's The Great 28 in there, along with Dylan's Highway 61. Apparently one of your criteria is that rock show its blues roots, and be somewhat rough. That's interesting.
    The exclusion of Zappa is also interesting. He was so eclectic, with jazz and classical influence, that I assume for you he does not represent a "pure" form of rock.

    An interesting thing about Chuck Berry. He used a Chess/blues rhythm section, with Willie Dixon on bass and Fred Below on drums, the same section that played on Little Walter and Muddy Waters sessions.
    Listen carefully to Johnny B. Goode and you will hear that the drummer and bass are playing a blues shuffle beat, while Chuck Berry is playing a straight-eight guitar rhythm. This is what he did to create rock 'n roll, playing straight-eights.

    So your criteria for "rock" is that its identity be true to its roots. This criteria requires a knowledge of the history behind it.
    Yes, you've figured out some of the ideas and preferences behind my list, which you must share at least to some extent. I like to hear at least an underlying blues influence most if not all of the song, which gives it all a genuine feel. And yet, there is nothing obscure in my list, nothing other posters haven't mentioned, nothing even that isn't on Rolling Stone magazine's top 500 albums of all time list (I'm guessing).

    So, much as I respect and enjoy the Beatles' work, when they branch out into conceptual art, pastiche and outright parody, as in the White Album, it somehow seems disrespectful to put them in my list. I mean, there's the blues, and then there's McCartney's Why Don't We Do It in the Road? Not to mention Lennon's Revolution 9. And then Zappa goes so much further down that road.

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    Led Zeppelin - IV
    Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
    The Doors - Self Titled
    Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
    The Smiths - Meat is Murder
    Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
    The Melvins - Basses Loaded
    Mr. Bungle - California
    The Mars Volta - Deloused in the Comatorium
    Rush - Moving Pictures

    Obviously this is highly subjective and I omitted tons of deserving albums. The Beatles deserve an album or two in there for sure, but I'm not into their music much. The Rolling Stones don't deserve any albums in there, they are the most over rated rock band of all time.

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    Just some favorites which spring to mind:

    The Beatles- Revolver, Rubber Soul, White Album, Abbey Road
    Pink Floyd- Animals, Wish You Were Here, Dark Side
    King Crimson- In the Court of the Crimson King
    The Kinks- Something Else, Village Green Preservation Society, Arthur, Muswell Hillbillies
    Bob Dylan- Blonde on Blonde, Highway 61, Bringing It All Back Home
    The Band- The Band, Songs from Big Pink
    Allman Brothers- Live at Filmore East
    Led Zeppelin- Houses of the Holy, I, IV
    The Clash- London Calling, The Clash
    Neil Young- Everybody Knows This is Nowhere, Rust Never Sleeps
    The Zombies- Odyssey and Oracle
    George Harrison- All Things Must Pass

    Nothing too out of the ordinary, except maybe my unwavering love for The Kinks.
    Last edited by Littlephrase1913; Feb-24-2019 at 03:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdc View Post
    Led Zeppelin - IV
    Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
    The Doors - Self Titled
    Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
    The Smiths - Meat is Murder
    Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
    The Melvins - Basses Loaded
    Mr. Bungle - California
    The Mars Volta - Deloused in the Comatorium
    Rush - Moving Pictures

    Obviously this is highly subjective and I omitted tons of deserving albums. The Beatles deserve an album or two in there for sure, but I'm not into their music much. The Rolling Stones don't deserve any albums in there, they are the most over rated rock band of all time.
    I never really understood the appeal of the Rolling Stones until I saw them do a live concert (I wasn't there, I was watching on HBO, but with all the TV monitors they now have at modern arenas, I'm not sure there's that much of a difference). Their act doesn't translate to the studio as well as many of the other iconic rock bands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlephrase1913 View Post
    Nothing too out of the ordinary, except maybe my unwavering love for The Kinks.
    Allow me to join you in that unwavering love! Kinks are in my top 5 only behind Dylan, Beatles, Iron Maiden, and Zeppelin. Their declining reputation and growing obscurity is one of the great tragedies of rock music. The run of albums they had from Kontroversy to Muswell Hillbillies was extraordinary, with Something Else, Village Green, and Arthur being among my all-time favorites. What other bands could be as melodic/hooky as The Beatles, as ambitious as The Who, and bluesy/rocky as The Stones? One could even argue they invented the power pop genre and the modern concept of the guitar riff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluteman View Post
    I never really understood the appeal of the Rolling Stones until I saw them do a live concert (I wasn't there, I was watching on HBO, but with all the TV monitors they now have at modern arenas, I'm not sure there's that much of a difference). Their act doesn't translate to the studio as well as many of the other iconic rock bands.
    The fact they were so uninventive in the studio relative to bands like The Beatles, Zeppelin, Hendrix and Pink Floyd is one of the main reasons I think they are a lesser band. The latter were really imaginative, pushing boundaries, bringing rock music to new and exciting frontiers. The Stones just did their usual bluesy rock thing, they weren't even particularly virtuosic or exceptionally skilled on their instruments. Being a great live band is not enough to me, being 'dark' and edgy is not enough. Sure they were very good at writing some simple catchy rock n roll tunes, I happen to enjoy a good number of their songs, but by any form of objective criteria I can think of aside from popularity they are a lesser band than the names I just mentioned (and many other bands), so the fact they are so often cited as 'the greatest rock band' leads me to believe they are (while still very good) certainly the most over rated.
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    I'll do a top 50 because a top 10 would require leaving out far too many favorites, and 50 is just about the number of bands/artists who have an album I've rated 10/10.

    1. Radiohead - OK Computer
    2. Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
    3. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
    4. Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
    5. Beatles - Abbey Road
    6. Bjork - Vespertine
    7. Tool - Lateralus
    8. Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
    9. Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti
    10. Opeth - Ghost Reveries

    11. The Kinks - Village Green Preservation Society
    12. XTC - Skylarking
    13. AC/DC - Back in Black
    14. Death - Sound of Perseverance
    15. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
    16. Yes - Relayer
    17. Kate Bush - Aerial
    18. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath
    19. Prince - Purple Rain
    20. Steely Dan - Aja

    21. Weakling - Dead as Dreams
    22. Taylor Swift - Speak Now
    23. The Gathering - if_then_else
    24. Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
    25. Tom Waits - Bone Machine
    26. Kayo Dot - Hubardo
    27. Emperor - Prometheus
    28. Megadeth - Rust in Peace
    29. The Move - Move
    30. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead

    31. King Diamond - Abigail
    32. Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
    33. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
    34. Alice in Chains - Dirt
    35. King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska
    36. Gorguts - Obscura
    37. Cocteau Twins - Treasure
    38. The Who - Quadrophenia
    39. Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers
    40. Cynic - Focus

    41. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
    42. Mars Volta - Francis the Mute
    43. Judas Priest - Stained Class
    44. Pixies - Doolittle
    45. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter
    46. Van Halen - Van Halen
    47. Immolation - Close to a World Below
    48. Queen - A Night at the Opera
    49. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality
    50. Mastodon - Leviathan

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    Another baker's dozen, in no order:

    Rolling Stones: Sticky Fingers
    Eat: Sell Me a God
    Alice in Chains: Dirt
    Smashing Pumpkins: Gish
    Soundgarden: Louder than Love
    Maria McKee: You Gotta Sin to Get Saved
    PJ Harvey: To Bring You My Love
    U2: Rattle and Hum
    Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin III
    Madonna: Like a Virgin
    Genesis: Foxtrot
    Scorpions: Savage Amusements
    Jonny Lang: Wander This World

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Magic View Post
    Scorpions: Savage Amusements
    Interesting pick for them. I went through their discography about a year ago and they quickly became one of my favorite bands, but I wouldn't have considered that one of my favorite albums. For me, that was the point where they went a bit too far towards commercialism and lost much of their metallic edge. I thought they had a near perfect pop/metal balance on Blackout. Their 70s albums are really underrated too. Always felt bad for Michael Schenker who joined UFO after the Scorps first album. Schenker was such a brilliant guitarist, and while UFO were a damn fine band in themselves, Scorpions ended up with far more success/notoriety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    1. Love – Forever Changes
    2. The Red Crayola – The Parable of Arable Land
    3. The Beatles – Revolver
    4. The Pixies – Doolittle
    5. Sonic Youth – Daydream Nation
    6. Joy Division – Closer
    7. Tim Buckley – Happy Sad
    8. Sly and the Family Stone - There's a Riot Goin' On
    9. Elvis Costello - Armed Forces
    10. The Mekons - Natural
    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

    One post in and we have a winner!

    Love – Forever Changes

    Well done!

    Color me shocked, pleasantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluteman View Post
    I never really understood the appeal of the Rolling Stones until I saw them do a live concert (I wasn't there, I was watching on HBO, but with all the TV monitors they now have at modern arenas, I'm not sure there's that much of a difference). Their act doesn't translate to the studio as well as many of the other iconic rock bands.
    With all respect, WTF???????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Magic View Post
    Another baker's dozen, in no order:

    Rolling Stones: Sticky Fingers
    Eat: Sell Me a God
    Alice in Chains: Dirt
    Smashing Pumpkins: Gish
    Soundgarden: Louder than Love
    Maria McKee: You Gotta Sin to Get Saved
    PJ Harvey: To Bring You My Love
    U2: Rattle and Hum
    Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin III
    Madonna: Like a Virgin
    Genesis: Foxtrot
    Scorpions: Savage Amusements
    Jonny Lang: Wander This World
    I particularly like the inclusion of Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin III and Alice in Chains: Dirt.
    These are very well know albums but never elevated o top 10 all time and IMHO they deserve consideration.

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    Stage Fright, Band
    Blonde On Blonde, Bob Dylan
    All Things Must Pass, George Harrison
    Workingman's Dead, Grateful Dead
    Are You Experienced?, Jimi Hendrix Experience
    John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band, John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
    Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin
    Forever Changes, Love
    Tonight's The Night, Neil Young
    In Utero, Nirvana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eva Yojimbo View Post
    I'll do a top 50 because a top 10 would require leaving out far too many favorites, and 50 is just about the number of bands/artists who have an album I've rated 10/10.
    Very cool.

    Here is my full top 50
    Stage Fright Band
    Blonde On Blonde Bob Dylan
    All Things Must Pass George Harrison
    Workingman's Dead Grateful Dead
    Are You Experienced? Jimi Hendrix Experience
    John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
    Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin
    Forever Changes Love
    Tonight's The Night Neil Young
    In Utero Nirvana
    Old And In The Way Old And In The Way
    Songs from Liquid Days Phillip Glass
    Jar Of Flies Alice in Chains
    Hot Tuna Hot Tuna
    Band of Gypsys Jimi Hendrix
    The Cry of Love Jimi Hendrix
    Berlin Lou Reed
    Get Your Ya Ya's Out Rolling Stones
    Beggars Banquet Rolling Stones
    Let It Bleed Rolling Stones
    Paper Airplane Alison Krauss & Union Station
    Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin II
    Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin III
    Hybrid Theory Linkin Park
    Throwing Copper Live
    Raw Sienna Savoy Brown
    Looking In Savoy Brown
    The Band Band
    My Life in the Bush of Ghosts Brian Eno/David Byrne
    Rust Never Sleeps Crazy Horse / Neil Young
    Blood, Sweat & Tears Blood, Sweat & Tears
    Bringing It All Back Home Bob Dylan
    Tea for the Tillerman Cat Stevens
    Chicago Transit Authority Chicago
    Crosby, Stills & Nash Crosby, Stills & Nash
    Transformation (The Speed of Love) David Sancious
    It's a Beautiful Day It's a Beautiful Day
    Aqualung Jethro Tull
    Imagine John Lennon
    Leon Russell Leon Russell
    Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette
    Heart Shaped World Chris Isaak
    Mezzanine Massive Attack
    Time Fades Away Neil Young
    Purple Rain Prince & the Revolution
    Traffic Traffic
    The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys Traffic
    Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Beatles
    Blind Faith Blind Faith
    The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle Bruce Springsteen
    Saturn, the Bringer of Old Age

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