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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservationist View Post
    I've discovered I don't like popular music and popular culture because it's hollow. It focuses on style as a way of manipulating others.
    But maybe it says something important about what your civilization values. Classical Grecian drama was popular culture for Greeks- and it offers much insight into ancient Athenian society. People cannot be manipulated to like something that doesn't jive with their beliefs.
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    1. RnB, Soul, Rock, Pop, 1930s - 1940s Swing Jazz, Standards my Parents like, Tango Argentino & some OPM

    2. I'm completely focused on Early Music since the day i 1st bought my 1st CD of a Period-Instrument Band... i barely listen to the other genres now... unless they're played on the Radio in a bus / car

    3. none ... but i've been attracted to and expanding my collection of the rarely played, and lesser-known Baroque composers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddhaBandit View Post
    But maybe it says something important about what your civilization values. Classical Grecian drama was popular culture for Greeks- and it offers much insight into ancient Athenian society. People cannot be manipulated to like something that doesn't jive with their beliefs.
    I agree. And even more, what they like shows us a lot about them and where their beliefs fit.

    I think however that when a culture rewards certain beliefs, people are more inclined to like them.

    Too bad we cannot have elective cultures. If I could live around those who were like me in outlook, it'd be a big improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservationist View Post
    Yes, but the question remains of whether what it's communicating fits with what one has discovered to be true about life -- and this is why genre change exists. It's why among other things I don't listen to the same stuff I did when I was 16.
    There's many sides to life. Sometimes maybe you might want something which is complex and takes you on a relatively long journey, but at another time you might want a quick injection of energy or beauty that a short song can give you. And not all classical music is long and complex pieces anyway, there are relatively simple short piano pieces or songs too (or simple dance-like music). 'Truth' that you look for in music doesn't have to be complex, sometimes life is about simple pleasures. Love and hate for instance can be quite simple primeval emotions.

    Although I've heard quite alot of modern classical music I can't really imagine the 20th century without popular music, it's really what most people hear after they are born and becomes probably the first experience of art in most people's lives. To throw something like that away is like throwing part of your memory or being away. And to just lump all popular music together or all classical music together as being good or bad is just too simplistic imo. You get good and bad music in both. Take the best from both and enjoy them together...and I still bet that you will eventually do that anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservationist View Post
    Too bad we cannot have elective cultures. If I could live around those who were like me in outlook, it'd be a big improvement.
    Isn't that what friends are for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by starry View Post
    I can't really imagine the 20th century without popular music, it's really what most people hear after they are born and becomes probably the first experience of art in most people's lives.
    So you mean it's arbitrary and has no value except an accident of history? Yeah, I'll buy that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservationist View Post
    So you mean it's arbitrary and has no value except an accident of history? Yeah, I'll buy that.
    No, I never said that. I suppose you could say anything was an accident of history, but when it continues to change and evolve over a hundred years (in a century as shifting in taste and technology as the 20th) perhaps it has had a certain staying value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starry View Post
    No, I never said that. I suppose you could say anything was an accident of history, but when it continues to change and evolve over a hundred years (in a century as shifting in taste and technology as the 20th) perhaps it has had a certain staying value.
    That depends on how well the time that produced it lasts, doesn't it?

    I mean, if another 50 years our society resembles Idiocracy I'm sure it will predominate.
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    1. what other genres did you listen to before you started listening to the classical?
    R & B, Soul, Hip-Hop, Reggae, “Old School” Rap, House music, a little Jazz, a little Rock, and some Pop.

    2. what happened to those genres after you developed your deeper appreciation?
    Nothing, I still like all the music I ever listened to. To renounce my music would be to renounce my past and I had, and have still, a good life. Listening to certain music brings back memories of the people I was with and the experiences we had.

    3. did you take up any new genres after taking up the classical?
    It’s only been a couple of months but I’m sure I will in the future. It won’t lessen my passion for classical music though!

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    1. 60s and 70s rock and pop.
    2. It's cyclical. I meander from classical to pop to rock to bluegrass to broadway somewhat randomly.
    3. Bluegrass left me cold and didn't appreciate jazz until 10-12 years ago.
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    1/ Most rock music, especially heavy rock, psychedelia etc.
    2/ Still listen to my 'old' rock stuff but largely haven't bothered seeking out new new bands/artists since getting into CM about 10 years ago.
    3/ I developed a liking for jazz at the same time as CM but quantity of purchases and listening time have been much less in comparison.

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    I used to be a HUGE fan of heavy metal and hardcore but got involved with classical, particularly solo violin performances, a few years ago. I like the intense stuff like the Pasacaglia and Bach Chicone, but have also recently started getting into Arvo Part after I heard his Fratres.

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    I didn't really listen to much music before I got into classical. A little bit of christian pop which I don't listen to at all anymore. Also soundtracks, which I still listen to now and then.

    Have got into jazz to a limited degree, but no more than soundtrack music.

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    Before classical (i.e. through early high school), it was Broadway musicals, most of which now seem pretty goofy to me. But I still really like Sondheim.

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    I still have a broad array of musical tastes. I certainly listen to all the varieties of "classical" from medieval chant, Indian ragas, Japanese Shakuhachi flute, opera, on through the most contemporary music far more than I listen to anything else... but I still listen to Jazz quite a bit, Blues, Bluegrass, Folk, and some Rock music.

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