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    Quote Originally Posted by Almaviva View Post
    @ mmsbls - I understand your post, you got upset at Argus' assertion that liking only one kind of music is a sign of lack of curiosity or ignorance.
    I was not upset (more amused by the style). I simply think he is wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almaviva View Post
    Yes, absolutely, more knowledge often leads to expansion of one's tastes, including in the examples that you have selected.
    What you say here is undoubtedly true. What Argus stated implies that more knowledge will always (not often) lead to expansion of one's tastes. According to him, anyone who only listens to one kind of music must either lack curiosity or have an abundance of ignorance. If one's tastes in a given area are narrow even though one has explored other areas, it must be due to ignorance. I think that is clearly incorrect as I believe most people would recognize by looking at my examples and/or thinking of others. In your post you also seem to agree that what Argus said is not true -

    Quote Originally Posted by Almaviva View Post
    our knowledgeable members here who have vast exposure to music and may - thanks to a well thought out and conscious choice - then later restrain their listening habits to a few preferred genres.
    It may be he simply wrote something quickly that he didn't intend (I did ask if he really meant what he wrote). I do not know him well so I can't say. This may be a minor point, but I was just a bit surprised to see it written so starkly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argus View Post
    There is nothing wrong with a lack of curiosity or being ignorant of areas of music. Some people just don't like music much. However, I can't understand people who actually do enjoy (or claim to enjoy) music on some level limiting themselves to one section of it.

    Take your example. Do you not listen to Stevie Wonder even though you like him? That doesn't make sense to me. Yeah tastes can change, but you even said you still like those listed artists. Why deny your wants? It's not like there are negatives to listening to one kind of music over another.
    You are correct that there is nothing wrong with being ignorant of areas of music (I am ignorant of many areas of music).

    You are mistaken in thinking I deny my musical wants. I do like Stevie Wonder. Presently I like classical music significantly more. When I want to listen to music, I prefer listening to music of Bach, Mozart, Brahms, Prokofiev, etc. There is so much classical music I have not heard (modern music mainly, but also music from all the sub-genres). I spend a couple of hours a day listening to music I know and music I don't. There is such a vast amount of wonderful (even better than Stevie if one can imagine that) music from which I can choose.

    I even listen to music I dislike (much of Ligeti, Xenakis, Schoenberg, Boulez, etc.) because I am curious and believe there may be a chance I will come to also enjoy them more than Stevie. In my experience classical music has given me more joy than any other genre by far. Since I don't arbitrarily deny my pleasure, I decide to listen to classical.

    I guess we're getting a bit off topic. We simply have different tastes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdc View Post
    As far as rock goes lately I've been intrigued with the playing styles of guys like Johnny Marr, John Frusciante, the Edge, Travis Meeks, and Omar Rodrigo Lopez.
    I tried to get into Mars Volta because the guitar playing was just so unusual. I've got De-loused in the Comatorium but it just grates with me if I listen to it in full. Too many weird time signatures and bashing out weird chords.

    I can't think of many out and out rock guitarists that have impressed me lately but there are plenty of interesting guys out there using guitars. Paolo Angeli and Steven Mackey spring to mind. I also enjoyed Jack Rose for acoustic. Fennesz I like as well, but I see him as much more than just a guitarist.





    I don't play much guitar due to hand/wrist problems so I don't keep as keen an eye on the guitar scene as I used to but there is plenty out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    What you say here is undoubtedly true. What Argus stated implies that more knowledge will always (not often) lead to expansion of one's tastes.
    Maybe I'm giving music aficiniados too much credit, but I thought that through logic and the sheer amount of music available out there nowadays that for people to be only listening to one type of music would be an extra-musical choice rather than simply being a matter of taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argus View Post
    I tried to get into Mars Volta because the guitar playing was just so unusual. I've got De-loused in the Comatorium but it just grates with me if I listen to it in full. Too many weird time signatures and bashing out weird chords.

    Yeah, I was playing bass in an original band where the guitarist was obsessed with mars volta so i gave it a shot...yikes, refer to my post in 'musicians you don't like' and that's basically what it comes down to...writing music for the sake of writing and trying to be complex instead of actually being complex...as for those who only listen to classical, 'let it be'...their loss

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    I really enjoyed the Mars Volta first release - the ep Tremulant, I also really enjoy Deloused in the Commatorium, after that their lineup changed a little bit (not sure if this is why) but I couldn't really get into their music as much. It did start to strike me as kind of wierd just for the sake of being wierd maybe...yet at the same time too similar to what they had already done.

    I have seen them twice live however and can honestly say that both times were the best rock live performances I have been to by any band. The entire lineup was incredibly tight and the drumming was transcendental.

    Thanks for the links Argus, I'll check them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argus View Post
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    A rising (or so it seems) star of the acoustic guitar:


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    1. I casually liked classical music for as long as I can remember. My first musical memory is some ballet. But, before I started buying more than the occasional classical album, I liked jazz, krautrock, metal, punk, good post-punk, lots of different kinds of experimental music.

    2. Nothing happened to the other genres I like. Stopping after classical music would be incredibly stupid, there have been so many interesting developments in texture, composition and improvisation since then.

    3. Not particularly, but whenever something catches my interest, sure. It's more like little movements than genres I discovered after classical; no wave, early British industrial, etc.
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    1. Classical was my first love.
    2. I still listen to other music but classical is my true love.
    3. I'd like to try jazz I like the jazz you hear in cartoons but I can never find what "kind" of jazz that is.

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    I think I have similar problem, I need some introduction to jazz, or some "easy version" of jazz, but I haven't found that yet. Probably because I haven't tried hard enough, with all the classical waiting for me to discover it...

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    Classical music has made the vast majority of popular music obsolete for me. I still listen to it when I'm not in the mood for actually listening, if that makes sense. The thing is, classical made me realise how much potential music actually has, potential that seems to fly over the heads of 90% of people. Before "discovering" it, I pretty much had no idea that a composition could be enjoyable without a thumping beat to nod your head to, lyrics to tell the listener what to think, or pretty lyrical melodies. I couldn't have fathomed the enjoyment that can be gained merely from observing musical structure and development, for example. In other words, my musical tastes were fecking retarded...

    Before becoming completely enamored with classical, my musical interests barely extended further than a few videogame soundtracks and a selection of rock bands. My main fascination was with vocals - especially very technically proficient rock singers ala Chris Cornell and Graham Bonnet. Being a singer myself I still have an immense amount of respect for these dudes, and nowadays I still listen to that music mainly to hear the sheer vocal virtuosity on display.

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    It's all good music in my view. I don't care about genres, I'm drawn to the artist's expression. I listen to all kinds of music constantly.

    As far as classical music, I like the modern stuff mostly. Everything from Debussy to Lutoslawski, and Ligeti.

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    1. Classical music was there from the very beginning. In my teenage years, I ventured into pop and heavy metal. I spent most of my teenage years listening to heavy metal mostly. I still occasionally listened to classical music though. I started listening to classical music seriously in my twenties.

    2. I never stopped listening to pop and rock. I just don't find much time for anything other than classical music these days. I still play my old favorites from Elton John to Iron Maiden.

    3. I never stay exclusively in one genre. Classical music is always there but I also went through jazz and R&B on the side. I'm beginning to realize that classical music above all gives me the most pleasure of repeated listening. There's simply not enough time for me to listen to other genres these days so I invest my time wisely - listen to classical music!

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    Quote Originally Posted by graaf View Post
    I think I have similar problem, I need some introduction to jazz, or some "easy version" of jazz, but I haven't found that yet. Probably because I haven't tried hard enough, with all the classical waiting for me to discover it...
    Some examples.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7SwdHZD6sI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Whp1kWZ8Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUKNI...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__OSyznVDOY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMgitKv-78I

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TyBwsLU_N4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02lJjrEck20

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pzy8...eature=related

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