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    If we establish categories it might be easier to peg the greatest opera for that category. Therefore, I nominate Wagner's Ring for the category LONGEST OPERA (excuse me for splicing a prelude and three musical dramas into one single opera, but I could not help it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    If we establish categories it might be easier to peg the greatest opera for that category. Therefore, I nominate Wagner's Ring for the category LONGEST OPERA (excuse me for splicing a prelude and three musical dramas into one single opera, but I could not help it).
    I believe Stockhausen has him beat.

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    Gluck's Orfeo and Euridice, although I've only heard the music and never seen it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lever Du Jour View Post
    Gluck's Orfeo and Euridice, although I've only heard the music and never seen it
    If I may, how many opera's do you know?
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain

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    Not many, only ever went to see Mozart's Don Giovanni, which was admitedly quite good, and of Cosí fan tutte I also only heard the music but found it to be also quite good, same with the magic flute.
    I also heard Debussy's Pelleas and Mellisande which has quite some good music, but never seen it, same with Verdi's La Traviatta, Geeshwin's Porgy and Bess, to name a few
    To be honest, I am not quite fond of the genre of opera, I think Cioran is in a sense right in calling it a sinester masquerade, altough I still think it's valuable for it's music only, the Dance of the blessed spirits from Orfeo and Euridice for instance I consider to be one of the must sublime pieces of music ever written, or the great famous aria from act II of Mozart's magic flute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    Yes, so do I, perhaps it is an easy mistake, but it still isn't G &S

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    Sir Arthur Sullivan wrote 23 or 24 operas, although most are operettas, and three are one-act-only affairs, and at least two are permanently "lost", as only fragments remain. One, Ivanhoe, was a very successful Grand Opera. The first act of The Contrabandista was later recycled as the first act of The Cheiftain.

    He collaborated on fourteen comic operas between 1871 and 1896 with W.S. Gilbert, of which Ivanhoe was NOT one.

    His other works are largely forgotten with the exceptions of the songs The Lost Chord and Onward Christian Soldiers. But he was moderately prolific, also composing 13 major orchestral works, eight choral works and oratorios, two ballets, one song cycle, incidental music to several plays, numerous hymns and other church pieces, and a large body of songs, parlour ballads, part songs, carols, and piano and chamber pieces.

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