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    Question Ricardo Muti's Verdi box set......................

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    Not familiar with every opera, but some of these have Muti in his very literal phase. Not a bad thing, but I like some of the more tasteful Verdi traditions. As an example the Ernani omits Silvia's first act cabaletta because it was added afterward and was not part of the original score. I found that a disappointment. Not sure what the experts knew about that at the time, but it was eventually shown to be authentic Verdi. The Traviata is done complete and "come scritto" as I recall. No E-flat at the conclusion of Act One for example. The Macbeth has gotten good press and you do get Caballé as Aida. The Rigoletto looks iffy on paper, but I have never heard it. The Don Carlo is the 4 act Italian version and other than Pavarotti and Ramey has gotten mixed reviews.

    It probably is a bargain, but you might have to supplement it with other performances to get the best of all worlds.

    Hopefully this is a start and others will chime in.
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    Don Carlo is the four act italian version

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    I already have most of those and the ones I don't have I'm not that interested in.

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    I purchased it for a gift and when she got it we opened it together to see how the Original Jackets were. The packaging is up-to-date for quality. The cardboard sleeves are loose enough though the CDs have average design. The Macbeth design used for OJ is in grey background, not black.
    Performance-wise, I must say that Muti has generally the best Verdi early operas. In this box, his Macbeth, Maschera and Destino are first choices for me. Avoid his Warner Rigoletto and Traviata.

    If you don't have any Verdi Opera collection, this is the box to pick in 2017. For collectors and opera-lovers it is the best Verdi box set available (big number of operas, + quality + packaging). Abbado has also an interesting box (Macbeth & Boccanegra) and Solti is rather mixed but the mature operas are extraordinary (Don Carlo, Aida & Otello).
    I forgot to mention the good quality Warner Box of Complete Verdi Operas (many from Muti), but the packaging is insulting. The Verdi Muti box has replaced it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wolf View Post
    Don Carlo is the four act italian version
    Thanks for noticing that! Yes, my dyslexia had me thinking 4, but typing 5. I corrected it above. It is the reason for most of my typos so please have patience with me. Grazie mille!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossiniano View Post
    Thanks for noticing that! Yes, my dyslexia had me thinking 4, but typing 5. I corrected it above. It is the reason for most of my typos so please have patience with me. Grazie mille!
    Dont worry Rossiniano. Prego!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wolf View Post
    Dont worry Rossiniano. Prego!!
    Signor Lupo! Non c'è problema! But get used to the typos!!! Plus, I have both English and Italian spell check and when they fight the results can be hilarious. So look for that as well!

    Back on topic, while it has been a while since I have listened to the Muti Atilla, I just recalled that he has said that he has a special love for the piece. I did hear him do it live and I was greatly impressed with his conducting skills. It was something that you would expect of great conductor doing Beethoven, Brahms, or possibly Verdi's Otello, but not something that you would that you would expect in early Verdi! So at least you are not getting the typical Italian bandmaster with the set, but someone who has thought carefully about his interpretations. When the Macbeth was released about the same time as Abbado's version, it was a joy to be able to compare two well thought out renditions!
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    I do hope they did something on that horrible sound from La Forza , as if recorded in the 1950 sound .
    Dry as dry can be.

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    Muti tends to be somewhat rigid in his Verdi. There are also some live recordings - Ernani and Don Carlo and maybe more. But Muti's approach is to be much preferred to some of the slackness we sometimes get in these operas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post

    All credits to Itullian

    Just saying, Sony is also doing a box with Muti recordings.
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    I got the Verdi box set from Decca/DG:

    I don't know if I would just one conductor for all the works. So far, no disappointments with the Decca/DG box set.

    https://www.amazon.com/Verdi-Complet...complete+works

    Make sure to get the 2016 release (linked above) and not the 2013 release if you decide to get it.

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