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    Quote Originally Posted by davidglasgow View Post
    The Traviata with Ceccato was available as part of the Black Dog Opera Library from EMI which was a series of books which included information about the opera and the full opera on 2 CDs - it might be worth checking around because they are selling quite cheap on marketplace on amazon. I imagine potential customers will be missing these because they are listed under Hardcover books rather than as CDs. I assume they were still using the same 1980s(?) remastering but the sound was excellent for the time and I really enjoyed the recording

    This was the older design of the book with CDs from 1998 which I have
    Attachment 101618
    ISBN-10: 1579120172
    ISBN-13: 978-1579120177


    This version with a different cover was issued in 2011 by EMI
    Attachment 101619
    ISBN-10: 1579125077
    ISBN-13: 978-1579125073

    Thanks for the interesting thread
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    I know, I saw the whole series ( 12, I think) in Antwerp once for €8.99 a piece, I can still kick myself for being " economical"
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidglasgow View Post
    The Traviata with Ceccato was available as part of the Black Dog Opera Library from EMI which was a series of books which included information about the opera and the full opera on 2 CDs - it might be worth checking around because they are selling quite cheap on marketplace on amazon. I imagine potential customers will be missing these because they are listed under Hardcover books rather than as CDs. I assume they were still using the same 1980s(?) remastering but the sound was excellent for the time and I really enjoyed the recording.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMitchell View Post
    I actually really like this performance, but it's better on DVD, where one is less aware of Fabbricini's vocal weaknesses. Dramatically she is superb.

    I don't even get one hit on this one with Amazon or Ebay. Is it long out of print or never made it to DVD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    I don't even get one hit on this one with Amazon or Ebay. Is it long out of print or never made it to DVD?
    It's never been re-released, which is a pity, because it was a fabulous production. I don't know what happened to Fabricini, and she appears to have done little else. Rather like Teresa Stratas in the Zeffirelli movie Act I taxes her vocally, but dramatically she is superb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    I don't even get one hit on this one with Amazon or Ebay. Is it long out of print or never made it to DVD?
    Only as some bootleg version, to be found on the net .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    Only as some bootleg version, to be found on the net .
    I found it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    I found it!
    That's the one, the bootleg DVD is as good/ bad as this , must be the same. Great staging and acting by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidglasgow View Post
    The Traviata with Ceccato was available as part of the Black Dog Opera Library from EMI which was a series of books which included information about the opera and the full opera on 2 CDs - it might be worth checking around because they are selling quite cheap on marketplace on amazon. I imagine potential customers will be missing these because they are listed under Hardcover books rather than as CDs. I assume they were still using the same 1980s(?) remastering but the sound was excellent for the time and I really enjoyed the recording

    This was the older design of the book with CDs from 1998 which I have
    Attachment 101618
    ISBN-10: 1579120172
    ISBN-13: 978-1579120177


    This version with a different cover was issued in 2011 by EMI
    Attachment 101619
    ISBN-10: 1579125077
    ISBN-13: 978-1579125073

    Thanks for the interesting thread
    David
    I got the 1998 book and am finding many of the CD track references (with explanations of the music) are out of place by several pages too late. I hope they corrected it for the 2011 edition. Also, when buying these Black Dog books with CDs, make sure the CDs are present before hitting buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    Don't have too much to add here, except to plug the 1952 Tebaldi RAI performance with Giulini, which I don't think has been mentioned yet. Early 50s radio so the sound isn't great, but it's a pretty fantastic performance--she's not super graceful on the act 1 coloratura but is otherwise spectacular.
    I just got a copy of it for $2 on a clearance table at Dearborn Music and I agree it is a wonderful performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    I just got a copy of it for $2 on a clearance table at Dearborn Music and I agree it is a wonderful performance.
    Personally I think Tebaldi completely misses the mark, and, unsurprisingly, it's not a role she kept in her active repertoire, though she did make a studio recording in 1954. Not only is the coloratura far from graceful, but she transposes Sempre libera down, and the problems don't end there; the characterisation is coarse, the singing often just too loud. I find it interesting that you like her, given that her performance is a million miles from some of the others you enjoy, like Gheorghiu, Cotrubas, Caballé and De Los Angeles. There is satisfaction to be had from the voice itself, of course, and certain isolated moments are splendidly vocalised, but it doesn't add up to a convincing portrayal of one of Verdi's most affecting heroines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaraslondon View Post
    Personally I think Tebaldi completely misses the mark, and, unsurprisingly, it's not a role she kept in her active repertoire, though she did make a studio recording in 1954. Not only is the coloratura far from graceful, but she transposes Sempre libera down, and the problems don't end there; the characterisation is coarse, the singing often just too loud. I find it interesting that you like her, given that her performance is a million miles from some of the others you enjoy, like Gheorghiu, Cotrubas, Caballé and De Los Angeles. There is satisfaction to be had from the voice itself, of course, and certain isolated moments are splendidly vocalised, but it doesn't add up to a convincing portrayal of one of Verdi's most affecting heroines.
    Probably mainly it is her voice. I noticed the final death note (more of an eerie scream on this one) is quite chilling.
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    I have watched about a dozen of these but still have to watch this one that came out this last November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    I have watched about a dozen of these but still have to watch this one that came out this last November.
    I saw one of the performances and thought, meh, seen it all before! I like Jaho, but I didn't find her performance a great Violetta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    I saw one of the performances and thought, meh, seen it all before! I like Jaho, but I didn't find her performance a great Violetta.

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    There are two with Jaho. I have not seen either. My favorites are the first Gheorghiu, Fleming, and Marina Rebeka.
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    Verdi
    La traviata Live recording
    Maria Callas, Giuseppe di Stefano, Ettore Bastianini, Luisa Mandelli, Arturo La Porta
    Orchestra e Coro del Teatro alla Scala
    Carlo Maria Giulini
    Warner Classics (1955/1997 Remastered Edition)


    I don't have the review on hand, but this recording just won clearly my Traviata challenge after more than 40 performances. My ears have adjusted with time better to mono live recordings, and the sound of this remaster is fair. The performance of the singers was faultless, finding way more than one would expect. I didn't like many Di Stefano Alfredos, especially the studio recording with Gobbi and Stella, but this one was a great night vocally speaking. Bastianini heavy Giorgio was the most accurate choice for casting opposite to vibrato voices who also perform Giorgios I like like Mario Sereni, Renato Bruson or even Thomas Hampson. And finally I could warm up to Callas' Violetta. I liked this performance much more than the Lisbon 58 I own, and the Covent Garden one was more intense than I expected. The Scala Act III won me over. That "Annina, dammi a vestire" she almost whispers cut me like a knife.

    In the end I was really pleased with the stereo recording I had purchased: the Pretre with Caballé, Bergonzi and Milnes. It performed for me even better than the Kleiber Munich. Also, that Rizzi Salzburg performance that I seem to be the only one to like actually did really well in my challenge too.

    Should I really get this version for the Scala 55 Giulini Traviata? I want to place the purchase along a historical Ernani and Don Carlo.
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