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    Arrow B.D. rd.1 – Richard Wagner

    Guter Tag, Freunde und Landsmänner,
    A proper introduction seems somewhat superfluous when speaking of one of the greatest minds in western civilisation – a man whose music transformed artistic vision and whose writings and influence inspired philosophers, poets and politicians throughout the twentieth century and continues to permeate contemporary thought.


    My latest girlfriend. Sehr gut shag.

    I am possibly the most influential composer in ze music history, informing and defining the harmonic language of subsequent masters – figures as divergent as Mahler, Debussy and Schoenberg – even the atonal language that would saturate the 20th century can be derived from the opening bars of Tristan. Just as Machaut was the first composer to write all five sections of the catholic mass, I was the first artist to combine all major art forms into one work.

    I was also an incredibly influential essayist – on topics as contrasting as revolutionising the role of the conductor in musical interpretation and controversial eugenics.
    Due to the immensely powerful nature of my art, it is hardly surprising that my life here on earth was a turbulent one – full of debauchery and betrayal, love and hatred.
    I remain a controversial figure to this day – being formally banned in Jewish countries – and I’m quite certain I’ll remain one.

    I shall enjoy this balloon ride – perhaps we shall fly over Bayreuth and see the opera house I designed – or over the breathtaking Neuschwanstein Castle built in my honour and inspired by my fairytale drama ‘Lohengrin’. Ja, a fear we shall, ja…
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    Thank you Herr Wagner for that bold exposition! Good luck and I wish you a pleasant trip!
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    Very nicely done. Certainly you can't be blamed for not being in character!

    What your contributions to music will be if you are allowed to stay on this balloon is what I'm wondering. But still, fine job.
    You get a frog in your throat, you sound hoarse.

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    Oh so prepossessing:


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    Herr Wagner may certainly take his place next to me on this hot air journey!! His sublime masterpieces of opera are the acts of a tower of power in the music world. For that alone he deserves such a place.

    GM

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    Sure, Wagner influence was great. Hitler was one of his frecuent readers, and both wont to get rid of the jews..

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    I think Wagner was more worried about the dues (union dues). For his orchestra at that monstorsity of an opera house.
    Bona Fortuna seniore Wagner.
    G.B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taneyev View Post
    Sure, Wagner influence was great. Hitler was one of his frecuent readers, and both wont to get rid of the jews..
    Music only. No politics or religion are a basis for the decisions by myself. And Wagner didn't know Hitler. If he did I bet he would NOT have approved of the troll and his Final Solution.

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    Out of character for a post:

    I challenge you to find me a photo of a 19th century woman who is attractive to our contemporary standards. And Cosima is slightly pretty, actually..
    Si vos agnosco is tunc vos es quoque erudio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bach View Post
    Out of character for a post:

    I challenge you to find me a photo of a 19th century woman who is attractive to our contemporary standards. And Cosima is slightly pretty, actually..
    I have to agree that Cosima had some decent looks depending on the photo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by handlebar View Post
    Music only. No politics or religion are a basis for the decisions by myself. And Wagner didn't know Hitler. If he did I bet he would NOT have approved of the troll and his Final Solution.

    GM
    I absolutely. All that matters when talking about a Wagner opera or whatever is really just the music. bringing his personal grudges into play doesn't do anything.

    WV

    P.S. I just realized... I'm talking to Gustav Mahler!

    ...

    ...can i have your autograph?
    You get a frog in your throat, you sound hoarse.

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    Ah, Mahler. Good - nice to finally meet you. You did excellent things with my influence. Excellent things. A fine conductor you were indeed.

    RW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bach View Post
    Ah, Mahler. Good - nice to finally meet you. You did excellent things with my influence. Excellent things. A fine conductor you were indeed.

    RW
    Said grudgingly through clenched teeth, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bach View Post
    I challenge you to find me a photo of a 19th century woman who is attractive to our contemporary standards.
    Aino Sibelius née Järnefelt.

    ''Oh, the String Quartet - oh, the Divine Scratching!''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bach View Post
    Out of character for a post:

    I challenge you to find me a photo of a 19th century woman who is attractive to our contemporary standards. And Cosima is slightly pretty, actually..
    Clara Schumann:


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