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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    It's on my list! I don't know when this performance is from (my googling hasn't gotten me much info about the provenance, I assume this is a recording of a live performance), and I have to admit that most of the names other than Van Dam are pretty unfamiliar to me. I have a sneaking suspicion that it's unlikely that the performers on this disc will measure up to Ghiaurov, Carreras and Freni.... Have you heard it?
    Amazon lists it as a live recording from Brussels, Belgium.
    The Van Dam compilation, “30 Years at La Monnaie” list the Simon Boccanegra excerpts in the compilation, with the same singers, as “recorded in 1990.”
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    Just listening to the Abaddo recording of Simon. It is a fabulous opera full of intrigue and the scoring is wonderful. A flowering of Verdi's last period when he revised it. The performance is probably one of the best Verdi recordings ever made - not a weakness among the cast and finely conducted.

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    I have this one, but have not watched it yet:



    The question is, should I get this one?

    I have an opportunity to pick it up for only $6 and no shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    I have this one, but have not watched it yet:



    The question is, should I get this one?

    I have an opportunity to pick it up for only $6 and no shipping.
    I never ever seen that one, I would stick with Kiri if I where you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    I never ever seen that one, I would stick with Kiri if I where you.
    That is the decision I made. I see there are better looking productions out there, than the Abbado set. Yes Kiri will definitely be a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    That is the decision I made. I see there are better looking productions out there, than the Abbado set. Yes Kiri will definitely be a good one.
    Attachment 104118



    This is a good one.

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    Has anyone heard the recent recording with Thomas Hampson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by betterthanfine View Post
    Has anyone heard the recent recording with Thomas Hampson?

    Just ones, for Calleja , there are better versions.

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    The last recording I listened to in my Boccanegra challenge was one of these performances, particularly the first. It seems that the Salzburg festival staged three or more performances that were recorded and released on long play: August 9th, August 19th and October 5th in 1961. All of them with the same cast, orchestra and conductor, but maybe not the same sound quality.

    It's confusing because I haven't found any copy of the October performance, but spotify had the August 9th (Silver Dokumente & Gala) and August 19th (OdO). I suggest you listen to them. Currently reviewing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post




    The last recording I listened to in my Boccanegra challenge was one of these performances, particularly the first. It seems that the Salzburg festival staged three or more performances that were recorded and released on long play: August 9th, August 19th and October 5th in 1961. All of them with the same cast, orchestra and conductor, but maybe not the same sound quality.

    It's confusing because I haven't found any copy of the October performance, but spotify had the August 9th (Silver Dokumente & Gala) and August 19th (OdO). I suggest you listen to them. Currently reviewing it.
    Hi Granate

    These dates might be suspect - on the Salzburg Festival archives website the dates for this production show

    09 August 1961, 20:00
    15 August 1961, 20:00
    24 August 1961, 20:00
    29 August 1961, 20:00

    Accessed at: https://archive.salzburgerfestspiele...29/id/0/j/1961

    CREATIVE TEAM
    Gianandrea Gavazzeni, Conductor
    Herbert Graf, Stage director
    Georges Wakhevitch, Stage sets
    Georges Wakhevitch, Costumes

    CAST

    Tito Gobbi, Simone Boccanegra
    Leyla Gencer, Amelia Grimaldi
    Giorgio Tozzi, Jacopo Fiesco
    Rolando Panerai, Robert Kerns, Paolo Albiani
    Vito Susca, Pietro
    Giuseppe Zampieri, Gabriele Adorno
    Glade Petersen, Hauptmann

    Choir of the Vienna State Opera
    Vienna Philharmonic

    It's worth noting that Panerai shared the part of Paolo with Robert Kerns which was the only cast change - it might be worth checking he is present on each of the versions you have

    Thanks for your comparative reviews - I always find them interesting!
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    I am new to the forum and signed up to address the continuous assessment that the Claudio Abbado Simon Boccanegra is the 'go to' performance. I love SB and have a number of recordings. I hate to be a stick in the mud, but as much as I like Mirella Freni, I always end up turning the Abbado performance off. For me it has no pulse. The bass role, sung by Ghiaurov also sounds too jagged, if that makes sense. I like him in other Verdi operas but not this one. I also have the 1939 Panizza which is outstanding but still not my favorite. The best performance of the ones I've listened to is 1961 live with Tito Gobbi and Leyla Gencer conducted by Gavazzeni. Some say Gobbi 'can't sing.' But he has a presence and sings well enough. For me this performance is absolutely superlative. The next best that I've listened to is Fritz Stiedry 1950 live with Astrid Varnay. In fact, Abbado to me is generally too sterile a conductor for any studio performances. Some of his live efforts are superb. Sorry everybody, but that's just my take.

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    This is indeed the best recording of all time—the 1957 studio recording with Gobbi & De los Angeles. The Abbado 1977 studio recording cannot compare to this at all. Cappucilli sings without commitment and the pace drags on the Abbado. Sorry for those that love that set but I don't 'see it' at all. It's a bland vanilla pancake performance. The next best easy is the 1950 live Fritz Stiedry Met recording. So again, the Gobbi / De los Angeles studio with Santini is number 1. Stiedry 1950 number 2. The 1961 live with Gavazenni conducting, Gobbi and Gencer is also great but track 7 on side one is ruined because of the mic setting. Spoils the whole performance. Otherwise it would be a top choice.

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