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    And this is lovely.

    'Digitally mastered for YouTube's new 1080p High Definition format. Claudio Monteverdi's beautiful "Aria Amorosa" is set in the musical form of a ritornello. Featuring Thomas Cooley, tenor; Elisabeth Reed, cello; David Tayler, theorbo. Video from the San Francisco Early Music Ensemble Voices of Music "Zefiro Torna" concert, September 2009. Voices of Music performs in and records our concerts in St. Mark's Lutheran, SF.'


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    Eloquent symmetry. Well played. A master class in fugue by two experts.
    Music begins where words leave off. Music expresses the inexpressible.

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    I've finished listening to Louis Couperin, my latest composer in my Baroque Listening Project (see OP).

    I think he's good, though for me he doesn't particularly stand out. Still, I'm glad to have listened.

    I listened to two long videos on YouTube, one of harpsichord and one of organ music.

    Harpsichord:
    Louis Couperin - Pièces pour Clavecin / Harpsichord (Century’s recording : Blandine Verlet)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qgWZxIYRFc
    It's pretty good music - or good pretty music. Occasionally a piece is more - haunting & experimental. This video as a whole is enchanting filigree.

    Organ:
    L'oeuvre d'orgue Louis Couperin: Davitt Moroney, Boizard organ (1714), Saint-Michel-en-Thierache.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSP7XYqxNpk
    This is good music. I got a bit bored listening but that's because organs are not really my bag, except in short exciting bursts, especially when using the more unusual tones available to the instrument. There were a few such pieces on this video that really wowed me. But I'm afraid that the usual organ sound is a trifle 'august' for me.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baroque_composers

    The next composer up for me is François Couperin, 'Couperin le Grand'.

    The Composer Guestbook has a few recommended works and recordings but a lot of interesting disagreement as to their quality.
    Francois Couperin

    What are your experiences with this composer, cher lecteur - and do you have any recommendations?

    Happy Hogmanay, and Happy New Year.
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    One of the great champions of the music of François Couperin, the French claveciniste Blandine Verlet, died yesterday at 76. A student of Huguette Dreyfus in Paris and Ralph Kirkpatrick at Yale, she recorded a vast discography of Frescobaldi, Froberger, Scarlatti, Rameau, Couperin, Bach, Mozart and more. RIP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RICK RIEKERT View Post
    One of the great champions of the music of François Couperin, the French claveciniste Blandine Verlet, died yesterday at 76. A student of Huguette Dreyfus in Paris and Ralph Kirkpatrick at Yale, she recorded a vast discography of Frescobaldi, Froberger, Scarlatti, Rameau, Couperin, Bach, Mozart and more. RIP.

    Sorry to hear it - may she rest in peace.
    I had just finished listening to her playing of Louis Couperin - see post #844.
    I had been admiring her playing very much.
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    I’ve posted about my favorite Couperin works before (in the not-too-distant past), so I’ll just give the YouTube links to my favorite associated recordings here:

    François COUPERIN: Quatre versets d’un motet composé de l’ordre du Roy (1703)
    :: Piau, Pelon, Rousset/Les Talens Lyriques [Virgin ’93]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXGu...UKsXhgcfzE_0QV

    François COUPERIN: Leçons de ténèbres pour le Mercredy saint (1714)
    :: Piau (1 & 3), Gens (2 & 3), Rousset/Les Talens Lyriques [L’Oiseau-Lyre ’97]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ROe...2-cNq4rOvaLByX

    François COUPERIN: Les Folies françoises, ou les Dominos from «Pièces de clavecin, livre III, 13e ordre» (1722)
    :: Sokolov [Astrée, live ’01]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKL_XZ9BMb0 (Les Folies françoises, ou les Dominos begins at about 11’07” and ends at about 19’43”; there are timing links to the various sections in the first comment below the video.)

    * * *

    As much as I like the three works listed, I rarely listen to anything else by Couperin … a few of the famous harpsichord pieces every now and again, but that’s about it. That said, I did recently stumble upon a potentially interesting 1959/61 recording of Les Nations (1726) by the Jacobean Ensemble (Neville Marriner, Carl Pini, Desmond Dupré & Thurston Dart), so I might listen to an ordre or two and see how it goes. Most modern accounts of the work employ a pool of musicians and vary instrumentation quite a lot, sometimes within a movement, for variety’s sake. I tend to find this practice distracting, especially the mixing and matching of woodwinds and strings, and prefer the comforting lack of variety of a fixed strings & harpsichord ensemble like the Jacobean Ensemble.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ml...mmsNJVv1b85mNH (“La Françoise” and “L’Espagnole” only)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICK RIEKERT View Post
    One of the great champions of the music of François Couperin, the French claveciniste Blandine Verlet, died yesterday at 76. A student of Huguette Dreyfus in Paris and Ralph Kirkpatrick at Yale, she recorded a vast discography of Frescobaldi, Froberger, Scarlatti, Rameau, Couperin, Bach, Mozart and more. RIP.

    There's a very good obituary here where Jean Rondeau says something that really surprised me, he knew her and he says she was

    « sauvage » — à la manière [d]es animaux aux aguets
    https://www.telerama.fr/musique/blan...e,n5533227.php

    (Sort of thing they used to say about Argerich maybe) Happy new year, Rick.
    Last edited by Mandryka; Jan-01-2019 at 10:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICK RIEKERT View Post
    One of the great champions of the music of François Couperin, the French claveciniste Blandine Verlet, died yesterday at 76. A student of Huguette Dreyfus in Paris and Ralph Kirkpatrick at Yale, she recorded a vast discography of Frescobaldi, Froberger, Scarlatti, Rameau, Couperin, Bach, Mozart and more. RIP.
    Thanks to you & to Blandine Verlet.

    Just to say that I kicked off my Couperin Le Grand listening project today, New Year's Day 2019, with your video - a beautiful sound, so evocative.

    Looking good so far!
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    Wow, I never posted in this thread, and I love baroque! Here is one of my go to albums of baroque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kjetil Heggelund View Post
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    Wow, I never posted in this thread, and I love baroque! Here is one of my go to albums of baroque.
    Welcome to the thread!

    Now that you're here - please stay.
    I would love this thread to be a kind of weekly (or whatever) magazine for baroque music, or at the very least, a benign presence.

    Baroque Music rocks!

    PS I love Handel too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    There's a very good obituary here where Jean Rondeau says something that really surprised me, he knew her and he says she was



    https://www.telerama.fr/musique/blan...e,n5533227.php

    (Sort of thing they used to say about Argerich maybe) Happy new year, Rick.
    Mandryka, thanks for citing that excellent article and a very happy new year to you. I liked this: « Elle me disait : “Je n’ai rien à te dire” », ajoute Jean Rondeau, qui commença le clavecin avec elle à 6 ans et qui brille aujourd’hui dans le monde du baroque. « Par là, elle voulait dire : “Je ne sais pas plus que toi. Alors écoute-toi”. Comment mieux apprendre la musique à quelqu’un ?». Merde! Paroles de sagesse en effet.

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    This is a recording of the Biber Mystery Sonatas with readings. Does anyone know what the readings are exactly, where are they taken from? I can't find anything on the web.

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    ^^^^^ @Mandryka, I don't know but the review on Amazon says something about a medieval 'rosary psalter' -

    'Before each sonata is performed, a reading from a Rosary Psalter from the late Middle Ages is given by British actor Timothy West. He gives an imposing reading, sounding as if he were acting in a Shakespeare drama. You may enjoy this or be put off by it, depending on your tastes and mood. Frankly, the readings didn't interest me. But it's a small matter to program out the readings on your CD player if you want to.'

    Googling 'rosary psalter' brought me this link, which didn't really make it sound as if a 'rosary psalter' is any different from the usual rosary prayers - http://www.preces-latinae.org/thesau.../Rosarium.html

    The Rosary as we know it today started to take its final shape in the fifteenth century. In 1483, a Dominican composed a Rosary booklet called Our Dear Lady's Psalter. It had a Rosary of 15 decades with 15 mysteries, all of which except the last two are what we have today. In 1569, Pope Pius V officially approved the 15 decade form of the Rosary we have today, and in 1573 the same Pope instituted the Feast of the Rosary in thanksgiving for the victory at the battle of Lepanto by Christians over Moslem invaders in which the Rosary played an important part.


    I wondered if West was reading a short passage from the gospel to introduce each rosary theme - or else, a pious meditation on each mystery, as formulated in the late middle ages - the fifteenth century saw the height of marian devotion in the pre-reformation church.

    Actually, no - I see from this modern Catholic Devotional Link https://www.rosarybay.com/pray-the-r...-ladys-psalter that each of the 150 prayers in the rosary were linked with one of the 150 psalms, and there was a medieval monastic practice of reading all the 150 psalms in one week.

    So presumably West is reading from a Middle English version of the psalms, or a translation based on a medieval version and sounding 'antient'.

    Hoping someone else can tell us more - though I personally don't enjoy readings & poems interspersed with music. We have a few cds of early baroque music with poems interspersed and I'm afraid it just makes me squirm.
    Last edited by Ingélou; Jan-03-2019 at 17:40.
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