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    According to @KenOC , today is 'A moody day...in musical history. My daily e-mail says that on this day in 1687, Lully got a bit enthusiastic in his conducting and struck his toe with the staff he used to beat the time. A few weeks later he was dead from gangrene.'

    So let's hear it for Lully & his music with this fab video that I learned about from @Idiat.

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    If anyone is in the mood for a 'baroque' film I can highly reccomend the outstandingly good The Favourite. Set during the reign of Queen Anne it has lots of baroque music on the soundtrack as well as several scenes of baroque music making. However, if you are of a prudish disposition probably best not to see it, it's quite earthy at times.

    (Sorry for my absence from this thread but my PC died and since it was my primary listening device I'm suffering from serious baroque withdrawls)

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    Quote Originally Posted by classical yorkist View Post
    If anyone is in the mood for a 'baroque' film I can highly reccomend the outstandingly good The Favourite. Set during the reign of Queen Anne it has lots of baroque music on the soundtrack as well as several scenes of baroque music making. However, if you are of a prudish disposition probably best not to see it, it's quite earthy at times.

    (Sorry for my absence from this thread but my PC died and since it was my primary listening device I'm suffering from serious baroque withdrawls)
    Great to see you - the film sounds good. Thanks.
    ~ Mollie ~
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    just dropping few composers where I often listen, that might be :

    Veracini



    Boismortier, got to know him because of my flute endeavor


    and others more popular names:
    Giuseppe Tartini
    H.I. Biber

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    Spiritual music of Bach Family before JS Bach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    Spiritual music of Bach Family before JS Bach
    Gravicembalo has an excellent baroque channel on YouTube.

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    I'm just popping up this YouTube video because I was idly scanning a google link, and came across the name of Maurice Greene, an English Baroque Composer of whom I'd never heard.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Greene_(composer)

    This sounds very nice, and the lyrics certainly strike home - but does anyone else a little more knowledgeable have something more to add? Information - opinions - videos - recordings?
    (Dorset Mike? Mandryka?)

    Last edited by Ingélou; Jan-24-2019 at 13:44.
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    For a bit more on Maurice Greene try this link

    http://search.freefind.com/find.html...maurice+greene

    HOASM is a good site for baroque info.
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    At one point Greene and Handel were good friends. Greene admired Handel and according to Charles Burney, Greene "literally condescended to become [Handel's] bellows-blower, when he [Handel] went to St. Paul’s to play on the organ…. Handel, after the three o’clock prayers, used frequently to get himself and young Greene locked up in the church together, and in summer often stript unto his shirt, and played till eight or nine o’clock at night.” Greene was also a friend of the then famous composer Giovanni Bononcini. Handel quarrelled with Bononcini and when Handel discovered that Greene remained friends with him, Greene became persona non grata with Handel who opined that “Dr. Greene has gone to the devil!”. “For many years of his life" Burney informs us, "Handel never spoke of him [Greene] without some injurious epithet”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICK RIEKERT View Post
    At one point Greene and Handel were good friends. Greene admired Handel and according to Charles Burney, Greene "literally condescended to become [Handel's] bellows-blower, when he [Handel] went to St. Paul’s to play on the organ…. Handel, after the three o’clock prayers, used frequently to get himself and young Greene locked up in the church together, and in summer often stript unto his shirt, and played till eight or nine o’clock at night.” Greene was also a friend of the then famous composer Giovanni Bononcini. Handel quarrelled with Bononcini and when Handel discovered that Greene remained friends with him, Greene became persona non grata with Handel who opined that “Dr. Greene has gone to the devil!”. “For many years of his life" Burney informs us, "Handel never spoke of him [Greene] without some injurious epithet”.
    Good grief! But how fascinating.
    Thanks, @RICK RIEKERT.

    Thanks, Mike, for your link and suggestion in Post #878.
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    Just a bit of 'Baroque News' which I find rather exciting. My fiddle teacher will be playing viola with the Academy of Ancient Music when they go to South America in February - I think it's the event described on this page (link below) as Handel's Heroines in South America. Taggart & I were at a 'Concertina Trio' lesson with Jim today, and we look forward to hearing all about it when Fiddle Guru returns.

    https://www.aam.co.uk/
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    He also mentioned that they were playing music by a (female) contemporary of Mozart - Marie Emmanuelle Bayon Louis Not exactly Baroque but ...

    She is a composer who is unknown to us and there is nothing on You Tube.. yet.
    Music begins where words leave off. Music expresses the inexpressible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taggart View Post


    Four sets of sprightly dance suites written to entertain an ageing Louis XIV. They were published in 1722 without indication of instrumentation; therefore, the same piece can be played by solo harpsichord or by an ensemble with a bass instrument, a violin, a viol, and an oboe or a flute. These are delightfully played by Jordi Savll, on bass viol, and and his outstanding players who make this graceful music irresistible.
    François Couperin
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Couperin

    I've now finished listening to Couperin le Grand as part of my OP project of listening to all the composers on the Wiki (short) list of Baroque Composers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baroque_composers

    Guest Book - Francois Couperin

    I listened to -
    The cd mentioned in Taggart's post, Jrdi Savall's Les Concerts Royaux
    plus
    This YouTube Video, The Complete Chamber Music
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9Splso0d8
    Six hours worth - listened to in instalments, and I always found something fresh and lovely; never got bored.

    Viol Music -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHeMYixSulo
    So emotionally expressive. The tunes are nimble and graceful. This comment from below the video sums it up:
    'Bittersweet and tender; like the memory of parties when all the guests have gone. A sensitive interpretation of this finely constructed and beautifully balanced music.'

    I also listened to half this YouTube video of harpsichord music, but gave up because of the quality of the recording on YT:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2CYOiMOcjw
    It was entitled 'Musique pour deux clavecins' from a cd called L'Apothéose de Lulli: Lulli Aux Champs Elisés. William Christie & Cristophe Rousset,
    It was lovely music though - gorgeous crystalline brilliance.

    My verdict on Francois Couperin:
    I have nothing but praise for this composer. Self-assured, elegant, lovely - nothing like me, but yet I feel so at home with this music. It's as Cary Grant said - 'everyone wants to be Cary Grant, even Cary Grant'.
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    Antonio Caldara comes next - no composer guestbook, unless I missed it, so I must look and see what I can find on YouTube.

    Recommendations gratefully received - anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingélou View Post
    Antonio Caldara comes next - no composer guestbook, unless I missed it, so I must look and see what I can find on YouTube.

    Recommendations gratefully received - anyone?
    There is now - Antonio Caldara 1670 – 1736
    Music begins where words leave off. Music expresses the inexpressible.

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