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    J. S. BACH «Concertos italiens»
    :: Alexandre Tharaud piano [harmonia mundi ’04]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78lrkaKDmUE

    This concept album, as it were, collects a handful of Bach’s concertos for solo keyboard that are based on concertos of various Italian composers—Vivaldi, A. Marcello, B. Marcello, and Torelli(?)—and couples them with Bach’s original Concerto in the Italian Style … with a few choice individual movements thrown in for good measure. While most concept albums are better in theory than in practice, this one actually works, as the lesser-known works that Tharaud seeks to shed light on are not lesser works in the general scheme of things—they’re actually worth shedding light on.

    Tharaud has no HIP ax to grind or authentic pretensions and exploits the full resources of the modern piano without a trace of guilt. He produces a smooth, rounded tone, even when playing forcefully, and shapes/phrases everything in a flowing lyrical way without smoothing over details or softening the rhythmic profile. He plays the fast/faster movements in a relatively forthright and dynamic manner, with much drive and trenchancy when appropriate; by contrast, he treats the slow/slowish movements as intensely contemplative inner monologues and plays them in a suavely negotiated, subtly nuanced, tensely atmospheric way that has a haunting modern edge … indeed, there are some tolling notes worthy of Edgar Allan Poe … some slightly creepy passages reminiscent of Alfred Schnittke in his “dead mother” phase … and the concluding Torelli Andante could pass for the soundtrack to a sequel to the ultra-popular Halo 3 “Believe” television commercial from a dozen or so years ago—aka Chopin’s “Raindrop” prelude (Op. 28/15) by ubiquitous session pianist and film score composer Michael Lang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rridXskgWg

    An interesting and compelling album all around.

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    Vivaldi - Concerto for Two Violins in A Minor RV522
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    Apollo's Fire Performs Vivaldi's 'La Folia'


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    VIVALDI Concerto a minor for two violins
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    Looks rather fabulous - not too far from our new home in Yorkshire, so I hope we're able to go.
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    My Listening Project: Telemann

    Quote Originally Posted by Ingélou View Post
    Telemann's Composer Guestbook - Georg Philipp Telemann

    The Wiki entry on Telemann - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Philipp_Telemann

    My thread asking for a bit of guidance, 'Is anyone wild about Telemann?'
    Is anyone wild about Telemann?
    Unfortunately, real life got in the way of my listening project (packing up and moving from our rented house in York to our new house in 'Gemtown', and unpacking at the other end).

    I had, though, used the thread cited above, 'Is anyone wild about Telemann' to listen to some of the recommendations. I put some posts about my response on pages 2 & 3 of the thread.

    I am going to abort the mission, or end it a little early anyway.

    My opinion about Telemann beforehand, based on some desultory listening, was that he was too prolific and that I admired his ability, but was not really moved by his music.
    I felt that Telemann's music was 'worthy' but humdrum and a little boring.

    I have changed my mind to some extent.
    I still find some of the cds of Table Music that we own cause me to drift off a little, but on the other hand, I have listened to some pieces that really do have the wow factor, and that I find moving, even sublime.

    To finish off my project, I am listening to Telemann's Trumpet Concertos on YouTube.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zCUaaZMyHo
    I love trumpet music, and at least half concur with Sidney Smith's description of heaven as pâté de foie gras to the sound of trumpets.. I especially love trumpet music mixed in with strings and other orchestral instruments. And Telemann's trumpet concertos are really glorious.

    So, I will return to Telemann, of course, but I am ticking him off as an able and often wonderful baroque composer as far as my listening project is concerned, which, as I say in the OP, is to sample every one of the composers named on the Wiki short list of Baroque Composers (there are 50).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baroque_composers

    The operative word is 'sample'. I had an idea of listening to at least three hours worth of each composer, but I am now going to be even more niggardly, and try to listen to at least one hour's worth, with types of music varied as far as possible, and to post about once a week, if possible, about my response, which is, of course, merely personal.

    My purpose in carrying out this project?

    1. To create a personal mind-map of the period.

    2. To share my opinions with others and to engage in conversation about baroque music, get recommendations and opinions.

    3. To keep baroque music alive and well in this fabulous music forum.


    The next composer for me to sample will be -
    Johann David Heinichen.
    Last edited by Ingélou; Feb-16-2020 at 17:30.
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    Im glad you're back Ingelou. After a period away from baroque music myself I have found myself returning to it this work. I've heard a wonderful performance of Bach's Kunst Der Fugue on clavichord.

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    Johann David Heinichen (1681 - 1729)
    This week's stop on the Wiki list - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baroque_composers

    I decided to listen to the recommendations posted in his composer guest thread -
    Johann David Heinichen (1681 - 1729)

    His Te Deum - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOan...ture=emb_title
    Spirited & elegant. I liked it, but wasn't moved by it.

    His Magnificat in A major - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVLl...ture=emb_title
    Again, pretty & elegant.

    Dresden Concerti (1) - Musica Antiqua Koln, 1992 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Au...ture=emb_title
    This at first I dismissed as 'easy listening' , but later I decided that that G Major Seibel 215 was lovely & lyrical, whilst D Major 226 I found stirring and assured - I particularly loved the blend of bowed and plucked stringed instruments.

    Dresden Concerti (2) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa21...ture=emb_title
    They were beginning to grow on me. Concerto in jF Major Seibel 231 I found striking, with bold melodic lines; I also loved G Major Seibel 217.

    Sinfonia di Moritzburg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-C9...ture=emb_title
    A fine piece.

    Johann David Heinichen - Extracts from the opera Flavio Crispo - Il Gusto Barocco
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHA4...ture=emb_title
    These songs were delightful. This was Heinichen's sole opera for Dresden, and it was never performed after a counter-tenor tore up his music and threw it at the composer's feet and court proceedings were instigated.

    Missa No 12 in D Major - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbHv...ture=emb_title
    Gorgeous voices & harmonies - this one really got to us. Inspiriting.

    So - while not singling him out specially, I'll always be glad to listen to Heinichen.
    Yet again, it shows how high a standard baroque composers generally attain.

    Next Stop on my listening project (See OP) is Rameau
    - a Big Yin.
    Last edited by Ingélou; Feb-22-2020 at 10:14.
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    Yesterday on Sirius XM's "Symphony Hall" station (a pretty amazing channel if you have the monthly payed subscription for your car), I heard a striking choral work by Antonio Bertali (1605-1669) called the Missa Resurrectionis. I'll have to see if I can hear it again, but I remember it being a lovely work that perfectly exemplified the Baroque affinity for the merging of structure and beauty.


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