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    Quote Originally Posted by Faustian View Post
    You have the 1951 set, which is a classic in its own right, especially for the performances given by Martha Mödl and Hermann Uhde. Though Knappy might not be quite as luminous there as in 1962, Jess Thomas is a great Parsifal, and Hotter is incomparable as Gurnemanz. I couldn't do without the '62 Knappy personally, but I can see how someone could live with the '51 and be happy.



    The studio recording with Meier in McIntyre is inferior to the 1971 performance. Its tempos are limp, the atmosphere is dull, and the orchestra is second-rate. The 1971 broadcast is a far more insightful of a reading and it features a searing portrayal of the title character by Jon Vickers.
    And the studio set is loooooong!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    This one must have been on free download at OperaDepot. I don't recall purchasing it, but maybe:
    I downloaded this one for free too. Now it's going to be reviewed in my Parsifal stereo challenge together with the Bayreuth 76 Stein.



    I had listened to it a long time ago and my favourite was Hans Sotin's Gurnemanz. I have been also watching the Stein 81 Video for DG and his voice was already sounding weary. Probably 76-77 has him in much better shape.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    I just burned the first disk of the Kna 1951 set to play in the car tomorrow. If I like it I'll burn the other 3 disks.
    Burn the second CD too or you won't complete act I.
    Last edited by Granate; Nov-15-2017 at 10:42.

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    My favorite recorded Parsifal is the 2013 Met performance with Kaufmann, Dalayman, Pape, Mattei, and Daniele Gatti conducting. No weak links here. Of course a DVD can be listened to like a CD: just turn off your monitor or don’t watch! (I would actually recommend that in this case because the production was very unsatisfying, although most of the individual performances were well acted. Mattei’s Amfortas especially was deeply moving.)

    Prior to this it was the Solti recording for me, with the VPO the real star, Kollo the weak link.

    Despite Knapp being mentioned a lot, I don’t see any mention of his 1960 performance with Regine Crespin as Kundry. I have an old LP set by Melodram. Unfortunately I haven’t listened to it in years since I put my turntable away. Anyone know if this is available in CD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott in PA View Post
    Despite Knapp being mentioned a lot, I don’t see any mention of his 1960 performance with Regine Crespin as Kundry. I have an old LP set by Melodram. Unfortunately I haven’t listened to it in years since I put my turntable away. Anyone know if this is available in CD?
    It's OOP, but has been issued:

    parsifal.jpg

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    Default Knappertsbusch 1960 Parsifal

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott in PA View Post
    Despite Knapp being mentioned a lot, I don’t see any mention of his 1960 performance with Regine Crespin as Kundry. I have an old LP set by Melodram. Unfortunately I haven’t listened to it in years since I put my turntable away. Anyone know if this is available in CD?



    B004JESNMU

    Not OOP at all. It's true that Bookbutler shows a difference of 10€ from European Amazon services to the cheapest American price. Look up this ASIN in Bookbutler and see if the price attracts you. It's not expensive at all.
    Last edited by Granate; Nov-16-2017 at 09:41.

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    Default Bayreuth Parsifal - On Print 2017 (Wieland Wagner)

    Year ASIN Label Conductor Parsifal Gurnemanz Amfortas Titurel Kundry
    1951 B00007FKPY Naxos Knappertsbusch Windgassen Weber London van Mill Mödl
    1952 B00EYRT4XY Andromeda Knappertsbusch Windgassen Weber London Böhme Mödl
    1953 B002ZF2IQM Andromeda Krauss Vinay Weber London Greindl Mödl
    1954 OD 10487-4 Operadepot Knappertsbusch Windgassen Greindl Hotter Adam Mödl
    1956 B000LP5DSI Walhall Knappertsbusch Vinay Greindl F-Dieskau Hotter Mödl
    1957 B0010V3M3K Walhall Knappertsbusch Vinay Greindl London van Mill Mödl
    1958 B000H5VEL2 Andromeda Knappertsbusch Beirer Hines Wächter Greindl Crespin
    1959 B0035LXVN4 Walhall Knappertsbusch Beirer Hines Wächter Greindl Mödl
    1960 B004JESNMU MYTO Knappertsbusch Beirer Greindl Stewart Ward Crespin
    1961 B006FNN7UQ MYTO Knappertsbusch Thomas Hotter London Weber Dalis
    1962 B000FVHGZG Philips Knappertsbusch Thomas Hotter London Talvela Dalis
    1963 OD 10694-4 Operadepot Knappertsbusch Windgassen Hotter London Böhme Dalis
    1964 B000UJC7WU Orfeo Knappertsbusch Vickers Hotter Stewart Hagenau Ericson
    1965 OD 10822-4 Operadepot Cluytens Thomas Hotter Adam Talvela Varnay
    1966 Out of Print Melodram Boulez Kónya Greindl Stewart Böhme Varnay
    1967 OD 11642-4 Operadepot Boulez King Crass Stewart Ridderbusch Ludwig
    1968 OD 10781-4 Operadepot Stein Cox Crass Stewart Ridderbusch Shuard
    1969 OD 11649-4 Operadepot Stein King Crass Stewart Ridderbusch Jones
    1970 B000009JNI DGG Boulez King Crass Stewart Ridderbusch Jones
    1971 Out of Print Melodram Jochum Kónya Crass Stewart Ridderbusch Martin
    1972 OD 11404-4 Operadepot Jochum King Crass Adam Sotin Martin
    1973 Released? YT Link Jochum Cox Mazura McIntyre Sotin Martin

    If you didn't notice, yes, Hans Hotter plays Amfortas in 1954.

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    And '55 remains as elusive as ever. You would think that Bavarian Radio might have a recording of it tucked away in the vaults!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    And '55 remains as elusive as ever. You would think that Bavarian Radio might have a recording of it tucked away in the vaults!
    It's on Youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    It's on Youtube.
    I'm sure Barbebleu means the complete broadcast. The youtube recording only has Act I minus 20 minutes and complete Act II. Nothing else. But I don't understand this obsession. The only cast changes in 1955-1956 are Titurel (Uhde 55 / Hotter 56), Gurnemanz (Weber 55 / Greindl 56) and Klingsor (Neidlinger 55 / Blankenheim 56).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    But I don't understand this obsession.
    We're searching for the Holy Grail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    We're searching for the Holy Grail.
    You mean that no one has found it since 1882???

    That would be like when in Act III Parsifal finally returns to Montsalvat with the Holy Spear, Gurnemanz tells him a long tale about how Amfortas lost the Holy Grail to a more powerful villain than Klingsor. That ending would be typical of Hollywood companies that want to establish a Parsifal franchise and sell Happy Meal figures!
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    Double post, please delete, ignore or let it rest in Montsalvat with the holy beasts eating flowers
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    I did indeed mean a full recording. Only for the sake of completeness as I have all the rest of Knappertsbusch's Bayreuth Parsifals. A nice fully remastered official release would be my first choice but I'd settle for a half decent bootleg!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    I did indeed mean a full recording. Only for the sake of completeness as I have all the rest of Knappertsbusch's Bayreuth Parsifals. A nice fully remastered official release would be my first choice but I'd settle for a half decent bootleg!
    Hmm! Which editions? On CD? The ones only on print by Opera Depot right now used to be in Archipel (1954) and Melodram (1963).



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    A mixture, mostly downloads, some on cd, some from OD, some from other sources who are no longer contributors to this forum.
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