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    Quote Originally Posted by Contrapunctus666 View Post
    I have already said that the music classification into high art/popular/folk has been created by the people who never got into the sound of metal so therefore they FAIL.


    Of course that I am superior, I can understand that good metal is high art and you can't, therefore I am superior.


    Obviously you listened to crappy metal like Sonata Arctica, new Therion etc.


    Metal was a revolt against the normal (read:average) music.


    Currently reading Varg Vikernes' Vargsmal. Great book so far. It would be funny to see an IQ duel between him and Aramis.
    If feel that strongly about metal, then what in the world are you doing on a classical music forum?

    Isn't there a metal forum somewhere that you can go troll around in?

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    ENOUGH ALREADY (again)

    We will return to the original thread subject, or this thread will be shut down permanently.
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    Yes, please.

    Or we could just ban anyone who expresses even the vaguest interest in becoming interested in becoming interested in metal. Or we could just stone them.. that's always a viable option.
    Si vos agnosco is tunc vos es quoque erudio

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    If members despise this thread, then just leave it alone. This thread IS in the Non-Classical section of the forum. If one does not like metal, then leave this thread alone. There are others who do appreciate this form of music and it is their right here to have a civil discussion about it.

    There are a few areas within the classical genre that I can't stand, but I don't post chastising comments about that type of music or suggest they get "stoned" because I don't like it.

    Back to the thread subject ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam richards View Post
    Metalhead, what do you think of metallica? Their first four albums were thrash metal classics.
    Their original albums were good, but after The Black Album, everything was horrible and went downhill.
    "When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." - Ludwig van Beethoven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzeleide View Post
    Yes, please do.
    Why?


    Krummhorn: Tell him to please get off this page. It is ruining our discussions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzeleide View Post
    Here are some passages from an article that Contrapunctus666 posted on the now locked thread:



    Misogyny [tick]



    Homophobia [tick]




    Racism [tick]

    http://www.talkclassical.com/47978-post621.html


    Do we really want someone posting links to such inflammatory guff as this? Solution: ban the person responsible.
    Hush hush, the adults are trying to speak.
    "When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." - Ludwig van Beethoven

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhar26 View Post
    Well, there is no way that Johann Strauss is like Bela Bartok either, yet both are called classical music.
    It is more than just sound wise though, but structure wise. Pop and Metal have very different structures. Forms of classical have pretty similar structure.
    "When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." - Ludwig van Beethoven

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    Good job, Wikipedia is always 100% correct isn't it?
    "When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." - Ludwig van Beethoven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krummhorn View Post
    ENOUGH ALREADY (again)

    We will return to the original thread subject, or this thread will be shut down permanently.
    Thank you sir!

    Now, onto discussion.

    I have lately also have been getting into the Depressive/Suicidal Black Metal scene. Most I have heard is not too good, but after looking more I have found very good ones. They definately portray the feelings of depression very well at times. Here are some good songs.

    Springtime Depression by Forgotten Tomb (nice instrumental piece, very melancholic)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXQN5CzqV4w

    Ableben by Wehmut (the album cover is incredibly depressing to me, just feels so isolated and cold, brilliant photography work, matches the sound of the music perfectly)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcIQMnQGNbg

    Suicide Forest by Be Persecuted (not too crazy about the intro though)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue2iAKVPOFc

    My Funeral To Come by Beatrik (This song always reminds me of my grandfathers death, so it really gets to me at times)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKvjhNP8yPA
    "When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." - Ludwig van Beethoven

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    As for Metallica, I will just say that Call of Ktulu and Orion both enter top 10 metal songs ever.

    I don't find their other stuff to be very interesing anymore (to me). however First 3 albums are great anyway.

    Black, Load and Reload were one of the albums that helped me to get into metal sound, so it is at least one reason why I have some minimum respect towards them. However, they are rock music.

    As for DSBM, Mutiilation is great:

    Through the Funeral Maelstorm of Evil

    Taken from Remains of a Ruined, Dead, Cursed Soul

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    Serious thread, eh? Oh well... I've ended my metal "journey" 2-3 (or so) years ago, I very rarely listen to it now, and when I do its mostly melodic death or some bands or songs of other metal genres that I've used to listen to way back when. Again, really rarely. I'm also composing (with a speed of a turtle, unfortunately) songs in a heavy-melodeath genre, I'm planning on recording them someday and make an album, about half of it is already composed (with lyrics, only thing that's lacking is proper drum arrangements, but it'll be fixed once I start putting this stuff in a daw using sampled drums), and I'll probably gonna finish the other half in a year or so, since I've really lost interest in this project a long time ago, but it sort of a matter of principle now to finish it, so I think it will be ready. Um... yeah, returning to the metal... It's a really nice genre, imo, based on the quite unique sound of a distorted electrical guitar, more-than-usual attention to the drums and, of course, perfect fifths. With songs based on the verse-chorus-verse pattern - either literally or in a more (sometimes much more) sophisticated way, but still based on that thing. I've started from hard rock, then heavy metal -> power (traditional, not the "excessive use of synth. strings" genre) -> black (true Norw. stuff, sympho pseudo-black) -> doom (death/doom, funeral) -> prog. (although it was mostly prog. rock, but nvm, there was some metal too). I probably got tired of it because I've listened to pretty much all of the significant (original) bands out there in every metal sub-genre - it's really tiresome to search for a good new band that plays something original. Got into abstract hip-hop and IDM afterwards and some other stuff, then classical...

    I'm also sort of... curious... about this whole "popular music" thing going on here. Really, does it matter? The way I see it - there's classical music and all the other music (named popular, for some reason, and yeah, I do include jazz there). This is in no way connected to the "pop music" genre. So... why all the noise about this stuff? Really, it's just a... um... distinction between classical and other music, and I see good reason as to why it exists, most of you will agree, probably.
    Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalheadwholovesclasical View Post
    It is more than just sound wise though, but structure wise. Pop and Metal have very different structures. Forms of classical have pretty similar structure.
    Forms of classical have pretty similar structures? How so? You admitted a while back that you have an extremely limited knowledge about music (read: 'theory').

    Yeah I don't really study classical music
    http://www.talkclassical.com/39048-post175.html

    So please, point out to me the specific similarities between sonatas, rondos, isorhythmic motets, arch-form movements, block-form movements, either between themselves or similar to any metal piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickgray View Post
    I'm also sort of... curious... about this whole "popular music" thing going on here. Really, does it matter? The way I see it - there's classical music and all the other music (named popular, for some reason, and yeah, I do include jazz there). This is in no way connected to the "pop music" genre. So... why all the noise about this stuff? Really, it's just a... um... distinction between classical and other music, and I see good reason as to why it exists, most of you will agree, probably.
    That's the way I see it also. It almost seems to me as though some regard the words 'popular music' as an insult which is ridiculous in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krummhorn View Post
    ENOUGH ALREADY (again)

    We will return to the original thread subject, or this thread will be shut down permanently.
    I'm frankly disgusted at your tacit acquiescence to the bigotry displayed by a poster here.

    BTW - a bold and different coloured font is not an effective rhetorical device.

    From the Guidlines & Terms of service:

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    It would appear that you need to revise your own rules, Krummhorn.

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