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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservationist View Post
    Nah, I'm a mostly classical music listener who also likes some metal.
    Sure.
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    My views **** off people who cannot understand them, hence your hobbled summary.

    You could always try reading them to figure out what they are, but I think most internet people feel better hating something than understanding it.
    Where do they get you people from? I've read enough of that site to see what they are about, the metal reviews in particular are just ridiculous. Also, you've never posted your views, day of slayer aside, so you are telling us we just need to read ANUS to find them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservationist View Post
    Luckily, I'm insulated against internet bullying and find it amusing that the more these people contort, the more ANUS grows.
    This makes no sense.

    Since this guy has just implicitly declared his allegiance to ANUS (straight from the orifice itself as it were), and contrapunctus567 or whatever was banned for the same infringement since the site promotes bigotry of various types, can't the admins ban him on this basis? I mean he does have that site in his sig, he's not being too subtle about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservationist View Post
    Nah, I'm a mostly classical music listener who also likes some metal.

    My views **** off people who cannot understand them, hence your hobbled summary.

    You could always try reading them to figure out what they are, but I think most internet people feel better hating something than understanding it.

    Luckily, I'm insulated against internet bullying and find it amusing that the more these people contort, the more ANUS grows.
    Don't you mean you're mostly a metal listener who likes some classical? I think this is more like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clancy View Post
    Also, you've never posted your views, day of slayer aside, so you are telling us we just need to read ANUS to find them?
    Are my views relevant, except on topic? I don't really feel a need to discuss them. You were the one who brought up ANUS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clancy View Post
    Since this guy has just implicitly declared his allegiance to ANUS (straight from the orifice itself as it were), and contrapunctus567 or whatever was banned for the same infringement since the site promotes bigotry of various types, can't the admins ban him on this basis? I mean he does have that site in his sig, he's not being too subtle about it.
    Please provide evidence that the site promotes bigotry.

    Please provide evidence that the site has damaged this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emiellucifuge View Post
    Which album do you prefer?
    Noctambulant, or Cabinet?

    Noctambulant for me
    Most people seem to prefer Noctambulant, but I have always liked Cabinet a bit more. The song Inner Conflict is brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post
    If he knows nothing about classical music, then I wonder why he is on a classical music forum? I mean that's like me being an electronics salesman and I know nothing about electronics. It just doesn't make sense.
    So one must be a representative of an entity in order to interact with it? When was the last time a clothing store banned all non-fashion experts from entry? You may as well never speak to any newcomer to anything you enjoy if you harbor some xenophobic sentiment for non-initiates to whatever hobby/lifestyle-cult you've chosen to identify yourself by. This sounds like populist fascism, where indignance and fear are determinants for the extermination of those falsely perceived to be dissidents with ulterior motives. In reality, though, you're simply disseminating irrelevant hearsay to preserve some surrogate comfort-space. What does any of this -- or any of the political views of a single individual -- have to do with the legitimacy of intentions in a thread about metal music?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clancy View Post
    Since this guy has just implicitly declared his allegiance to ANUS (straight from the orifice itself as it were), and contrapunctus567 or whatever was banned for the same infringement since the site promotes bigotry of various types, can't the admins ban him on this basis? I mean he does have that site in his sig, he's not being too subtle about it.
    Ah, the 'reverse-fascism to counteract fascism' approach. I've not seen any evidence on these forums of bigotry excepting mud-slingers such as yourself; how a polite discussion on musical aesthetics metamorphosed into finger-pointing and hysteria within a few posts is both fascinating and disappointing. Your clamoring for surrogate action, fundamentally, mimics that of conspiracy nuts and witch-seeking clergymen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post
    Don't you mean you're mostly a metal listener who likes some classical? I think this is more like it.
    Who cares? I prefer Renaissance music to Mozart and Haydn. Do I possess some innate posting ability that is negated following my admission?

    On topic:

    Quote Originally Posted by Herzeleide View Post
    From the Britannica Online Encyclopedia:

    'Philosophical study of the qualities that make something an object of aesthetic interest and of the nature of aesthetic value and judgment.'
    Definition is redundant and useless.


    Edited to note on ANUS: I implore you all to restrain yourselves from knee-jerk reactions, and to consider that you're probably conflating that site's ideology with the various ones espoused by National Socialist black metal bands. If I'm not mistaken, ANUS has denounced both the insipid music produced by these generic pretenders and their vitriolic political rhetoric.

    Just something to think about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedrater View Post
    So one must be a representative of an entity in order to interact with it? When was the last time a clothing store banned all non-fashion experts from entry? You may as well never speak to any newcomer to anything you enjoy if you harbor some xenophobic sentiment for non-initiates to whatever hobby/lifestyle-cult you've chosen to identify yourself by. This sounds like populist fascism, where indignance and fear are determinants for the extermination of those falsely perceived to be dissidents with ulterior motives. In reality, though, you're simply disseminating irrelevant hearsay to preserve some surrogate comfort-space. What does any of this -- or any of the political views of a single individual -- have to do with the legitimacy of intentions in a thread about metal music?
    It is the fact Conservationist and most of the ANUSites (yes, you included) pretend to know about classical music when it's obvious that doesn't have the knowledge to discuss Classical. This is not a Metal forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedrater View Post
    Ah, the 'reverse-fascism to counteract fascism' approach. I've not seen any evidence on these forums of bigotry excepting mud-slingers such as yourself; how a polite discussion on musical aesthetics metamorphosed into finger-pointing and hysteria within a few posts is both fascinating and disappointing. Your clamoring for surrogate action, fundamentally, mimics that of conspiracy nuts and witch-seeking clergymen.
    LOL. There is a saying: The guilty always says that the Judge is at the fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedrater View Post
    Edited to note on ANUS: I implore you all to restrain yourselves from knee-jerk reactions, and to consider that you're probably conflating that site's ideology with the various ones espoused by National Socialist black metal bands. If I'm not mistaken, ANUS has denounced both the insipid music produced by these generic pretenders and their vitriolic political rhetoric.
    ANUS is just a troll organization who preach their ideology to the stupid and the gullible.

    Other metal forums have learned not to take this seriously, but here in the Classical forum people are not, but I can assure you that people will gradually seeing the truth.
    Last edited by Krummhorn; Jun-06-2009 at 21:31.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam richards View Post
    ANUS is just a troll organization who preach their ideology to the stupid and the gullible. Conservationist is paid to do this propaganda BS on forums.
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    ANUS is not a troll organization; they're an organization that supports trolling as a method for conveying ideas. Here's their philosophy:

    http://www.anus.com/zine/philosophy

    Other metal forums actually embrace us with open arms -- it varies from forum to forum. Basically, it wouldn't be a big deal except you've decided to be brave Internet hero bully and save the helpless from us.

    Here's a good thread of ANUS users discussing classical music:

    http://www.anus.com/metal/hall/index.php?topic=3394.0

    I'm here to talk music. If you cannot accept that, maybe you should put me on ignore so you can control your temper better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedrater View Post
    Definition is redundant and useless.
    If you can't even explain what's wrong with it like an adult, then why criticise it? Is the definition wrong by association or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam richards View Post
    It is the fact Conservationist and most of the ANUSites (yes, you included) pretend to know about classical music when it's obvious that doesn't have the knowledge to discuss Classical. This is not a Metal forum.
    I wasn't aware that I was an 'ANUSite', but I'm glad that your generosity extends as far as to enlighten me. All this time, I thought I was simply interested in discussing and promoting high-quality music through whatever avenues available to me, but I guess I'm not allowed to do that here if I'm out of the sedative-administering loop that promotes both Bach and improvisational music while denying reality.

    This is a metal forum, actually -- that's why it's titled 'Metal Music Discussion'. In any case, it is typical for impassive forums dwellers to pretend to advocate free speech when the speech is mind-numbing/reassuring/self-referencing/confirms that hobbies are social predicates (it makes them feel in control of their lives), but their veils are always discarded when this control is challenged, either directly or indirectly.


    LOL. There is a saying: The guilty always says that the Judge is at the fault.
    I'd hate to have you as my lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzeleide View Post
    If you can't even explain what's wrong with it like an adult, then why criticise it? Is the definition wrong by association or something?
    Derision and mockery are petty. I never challenged your credibility on this topic, nor did I ever call into question your worth as an individual; I simply [correctly] pointed out that the definition provided was redundant and useless. I'd bother to address this questioning of my adultness if it weren't for the fact that it's a totally emotional and incomprehensible parody of a completely unrelated point, and was engineered solely to win an Internet game with no regard for cleverness or relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam richards View Post
    This is not a Metal forum.
    We can't talk in metal sub-forum about metal.Why this sub-forum then exist?

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    Hi Batrider,

    I believe the thought behind the comment was that this "Forum", Talk Classical, is not a forum dedicated to Metal music, rather, it's primary emphasis is Classical music.

    Most forums have a "primary" interest ... the primary interest on this site is the promotion and discussion of all the genre's within Classical music. However, as is in the case of many "topical" forums, each has one or more areas dedicated to the discussion of other music styles.

    This is the main reason the "Non-Classical" forum area exists in this forum community. In recent months, we noted an increased activity for Metal music discussions in the non-classical area, so we created this sub-forum dedicated to that topic.

    So to answer your question, yes ... you can discuss metal in this sub-forum area.
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    But we still hate you and think your facile and pretentious breed of pop music is only fit to line a dust bin.

    ..Is what he forgot to add..

    Just messing, metalheads! I think you're sexy..
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    who ... me?

    I appreciate all musicians
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    That's what they're calling themselves these days, is it..
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