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    Did Ellington do all his orchestration? I thought I heard somewhere that it was Billy Strayhorn doing much of the arrangements for Ellington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeh375 View Post
    Orchestration is obviously not unique to classical music so I'd also say Ellington is a valid proposal.
    Melody is also not unique to classical music, so we might as well all just talk about non-classical music artists capable of good melody in threads titled "the best melodists" in this forum section.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heck148 View Post
    Several of these works have been performed and recorded by Detroit SO [Jarvi] and Buffalo PO [Faletta]....they've certainly been performed in "classical" music venues....
    Why not create a whole new thread about Ellington's orchestration in this forum section, if discussion of his orchestration is so acceptable in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammeredklavier View Post
    Melody is also not unique to classical music, so we might as well all just talk about non-classical music artists capable of good melody in threads titled "the best melodists" in this forum section.
    I understand the annoyance about the 'deviations' from pure 'Classical', but believe it or not, there are great orchestrators as such whose work doesn't normally find its way to the concert hall. I personally have a broad view and appreciation of that particular skill and art as do others, so why not expand the thread's remit a bit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdc View Post
    Did Ellington do all his orchestration? I thought I heard somewhere that it was Billy Strayhorn doing much of the arrangements for Ellington.
    I've heard it was more than just the arrangements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardBast View Post
    I've heard it was more than just the arrangements.
    Strayhorn wrote many of the songs, they collaborated seamlessly on much of the book, and Ellington would turn over some of the orchestrations to him. But, Ellington wrote the bulk of the music and did his own orchestrations, before, during, and after Strayhorn was a part of the organization.

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    I'll add another vote for Richard Strauss, and stir the pot by suggesting Malcolm Arnold. Not to everyone's taste, perhaps, but a skillful manipulator of orchestral tone and texture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Fairlea View Post
    I'll add another vote for Richard Strauss, and stir the pot by suggesting Malcolm Arnold. Not to everyone's taste, perhaps, but a skillful manipulator of orchestral tone and texture.
    ...absolutely.......

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