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    I'll put in a request to have Marc-Andre Dalbavie as a focus composer.

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    Hey OP which composer will be next after we do Abrahamsen?

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    The nomination list at present is:

    Tulse: Sofia Gubaidulina (on-going)
    mmsbls: Hans Abrahamsen (next scheduled)
    schigolch: Salvatore Sciarrino
    Balthazar: Frederic Rzewski
    Art Rock: Kalevi Aho
    Haydn man: Philip Glass
    Melvin: Kamran Ince
    eugeneonagain: Chiayu Hsu
    Malx: James MacMillan
    20centrfuge: Thomas Ades
    LezLee: Marjan Mozetich
    Portamento: Kaija Saariaho
    Andolink: Per Nørgård
    PeterFromLA: Marc-Andre Dalbavie

    After Abrahamsen the list is ordered by when the composers were nominated. Since we'd have to have some voting to change that order, I'd suggest keeping the order as is. In that case after Abrahamsen we will discuss Salvatore Sciarrino.

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    We have started Hans Abrahamsen in the Exploring Contemporary Composers thread. The next composer will be Salvatore Sciarrino.

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    On Sunday we'll have explored Abrahamsen for 2 weeks. Since the thread has had relatively few posts in the past several days, I would suggest moving on to Salvatore Sciarrino starting Sunday, January 21.

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    We can end Abrahamsen with our final thoughts, and conclude which have been our favorite pieces. Hype for this Dane!!!
    I have enjoyed his works more and more throughout the past two weeks, and still my appreciation for his music grows.

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    I regret due to other commitments I have had very little time to participate in these explorations, however I hope once things settle to pick up on this. Contemporary composers and their works still don't come easily to these ears so I appreciate the guidance from those with more knowledge and expertise than me

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    Sorry to say I didn't really enjoy some of Abrahamsen's works I listened to, BUT "Let Me Tell You" is still one of my favorite new compositions.

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    mmsbls, I am late to the party, but can I add Carl Vine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentio View Post
    mmsbls, I am late to the party, but can I add Carl Vine?
    Certainly.

    The nomination list at present is:

    Tulse: Sofia Gubaidulina (on-going)
    mmsbls: Hans Abrahamsen (on-going)
    schigolch: Salvatore Sciarrino (next scheduled)
    Balthazar: Frederic Rzewski
    Art Rock: Kalevi Aho
    Haydn man: Philip Glass
    Melvin: Kamran Ince
    eugeneonagain: Chiayu Hsu
    Malx: James MacMillan
    20centrfuge: Thomas Ades
    LezLee: Marjan Mozetich
    Portamento: Kaija Saariaho
    Andolink: Per Nørgård
    PeterFromLA: Marc-Andre Dalbavie
    silentio: Carl Vine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydn man View Post
    I regret due to other commitments I have had very little time to participate in these explorations, however I hope once things settle to pick up on this. Contemporary composers and their works still don't come easily to these ears so I appreciate the guidance from those with more knowledge and expertise than me
    Best thing to do Haydn man, is to simply take the occasional random stab at a few modern pieces now and then, as a portion of your diet. Over a prolonged period of time, you will grow more familiar. Attempting a challenging piece is always healthy merely for the exposure, even if you feel it is incomprehensible (which I have been through for many years, but more recently, from enough prolonged exposure, I find it much more familiar and palatable.)

    Anyway the most important thing is your will to learn to enjoy this music! And familiarity will come naturally through regular exposure to the unknown. Also, there are many different composers and styles out there, so you may connect to some more than others, (and this may also change over time as well.)
    Last edited by Melvin; Jan-21-2018 at 11:25.

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    We have started Salvatore Sciarrino in the Exploring thread.

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    Sunday, February 4 we'll start Frederic Rzewski. We seemed to get much more discussion with Gubaidulina than with Abrahamsen or Sciarrino. I'm not sure if there's a specific reason for that. Some composers may be better known, more interesting, or more enjoyable for people. Anyway, hopefully we can have some nice discussion about Rzewski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    Sunday, February 4 we'll start Frederic Rzewski. We seemed to get much more discussion with Gubaidulina than with Abrahamsen or Sciarrino. I'm not sure if there's a specific reason for that. Some composers may be better known, more interesting, or more enjoyable for people. Anyway, hopefully we can have some nice discussion about Rzewski.
    I think Gubaidulina is far better known than the two other composers you mention. She's been recorded on internationally distributed labels since the mid 1980s at quite a prolific level, and championed by legendary performers (Rostropovich, Mutter, and Kremer, for example). Abrahamsen and Scirriano have also been well-recorded, but not as extensively for as long a period. Certainly the latter two have become increasingly prominent over the past decade, especially Abrahamsen, but they have a ways to go to catch up with the Goob!

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    I haven't had much time for posting, but fwiw I've really enjoyed the Scirriano segment. Though there haven't been many posts, what is there has proved a useful introduction to a mostly unfamiliar composer for me.

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