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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Ya, I think I lost focus near the end, and it does seem to end kind of abruptly.

    Updated the last part and a few other tweaks. Not exactly a few more minutes (more like 15 seconds), but i don't want to spend another week on it.


    good...spend a few weeks instead....it's worth the effort. Perhaps it's time to start moving up the
    keyboard to see what you find there. It definitely has something about it Phil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Ya, I think I lost focus near the end, and it does seem to end kind of abruptly.

    Updated the last part and a few other tweaks. Not exactly a few more minutes (more like 15 seconds), but i don't want to spend another week on it.

    What is the purpose of all these pieces? It sounds like a pacman machine.

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    I finally have a serious piece coming and perhaps this will be the one to change the tide. Would you not want to try to write actual music instead of practising intellectual onanism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1996D View Post
    I finally have a serious piece coming and perhaps this will be the one to change the tide. Would you not want to try to write actual music instead of practising intellectual onanism?
    Hey, nice to see you here, Dave. I just like to try out different stuff. Hope you're better prepared for your next piece.
    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    ......... I just like to try out different stuff. .. .
    you've got a great attitude Phil.
    Last edited by mikeh375; May-07-2020 at 13:35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Hey, nice to see you here, Dave. I just like to try out different stuff. Hope you're better prepared for your next piece.
    Nice to be here, I couldn't access this sub forum before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Ya, I think I lost focus near the end, and it does seem to end kind of abruptly.

    Updated the last part and a few other tweaks. Not exactly a few more minutes (more like 15 seconds), but i don't want to spend another week on it.

    It's full of tension, but I find it pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1996D View Post
    I finally have a serious piece coming and perhaps this will be the one to change the tide. Would you not want to try to write actual music instead of practising intellectual onanism?
    I think Phil just likes to toy around with ideas. Based on my interactions with him, it IS more of an intellectual adventure for him. He likes his music more cerebral than emotive, overall, I believe.

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    Here is an updated version of this one. Much tighter now, and I got rid of some more stagnant harmonies/melodies. Got an idea of extending the last etude, but have to find the motivation to get my hands dirty on that one.

    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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    Here is my perfected version in its onanistic decadence. This could be my personal favourite piece.

    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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    onanistic? like pulling out? haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swosh View Post
    onanistic? like pulling out? haha
    Yes, it's intended to keep frustrating the listener, just as you think there is some kind of consistency or harmonic goal. Plus it works on myself which is self-gratifying.
    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Here is my perfected version in its onanistic decadence. This could be my personal favourite piece.

    I would alter your canon in a way that it doesn't have V-I cadence to D at the end (the last 2 seconds of voice2), it sounds a bit freaky after 1 minute of non-tonal sounds. Also, in the future, try taking the canonic processes further and build harmonies out of canonic techniques. For example you could create a passage of 7 notes out of the chromatic scale, pair it into two groups of three + 1 measure. Then create a second and a third voice under it, which maintain the same intervallic proportions as the prime 7 note row (or whatever amount of pitches you choose) but they are either transpositions, inversions, retrograde or retrograde inversions of it. Try building 3 voice harmony this way and at the same time plan your tone row in such way that the 3 voice harmony in 3 note groups always uses the full 12 notes of the chromatic scale and no note is repeated. When you arrive to the 7th note of the row, begin a new cycle of the row but change the canonic processes in each (if the soprano line was the prime row, it would be now for example a transposition of the inversion and so on).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkoi View Post
    I would alter your canon in a way that it doesn't have V-I cadence to D at the end (the last 2 seconds of voice2), it sounds a bit freaky after 1 minute of non-tonal sounds. Also, in the future, try taking the canonic processes further and build harmonies out of canonic techniques. For example you could create a passage of 7 notes out of the chromatic scale, pair it into two groups of three + 1 measure. Then create a second and a third voice under it, which maintain the same intervallic proportions as the prime 7 note row (or whatever amount of pitches you choose) but they are either transpositions, inversions, retrograde or retrograde inversions of it. Try building 3 voice harmony this way and at the same time plan your tone row in such way that the 3 voice harmony in 3 note groups always uses the full 12 notes of the chromatic scale and no note is repeated. When you arrive to the 7th note of the row, begin a new cycle of the row but change the canonic processes in each (if the soprano line was the prime row, it would be now for example a transposition of the inversion and so on).
    Haha. Sorry for getting you to take the time writing. This was not intended to be a real composition, tonal or atonal. An improvisation more than anything. I just went completely by ear and did whatever captured my imagination, while just using the canon form as an organizing principle to dictate the flow and interaction of the 2 voices. The last thing in my mind was building anything consistent, but rather skirting around different groups of harmonies, wading in and out. Yeah, I knew the last part was something in the major. I had played around with some bitonality or modalities previously, and the sound intrigued me, but was intentionally trying to avoid anything conventional in this case.
    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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    Spent the good part of today on finishing this one. I really don't think I'll be adding any more after this.

    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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