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    I grew fond of Jim Ginn too, his limericks always made me laugh.
    I hoped MacDoom might have made it to TC but I know he was very busy with his B.& B. Ebor1 in York was always interesting to talk to as well.

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    The one I miss the most was Mozart, who had extensive piano knowledge and stories. He told about Sviatoslav Richter sleeping under a piano. He had some magnaplanar speakers he would listen to piano recordings on, because it sounded like the piano was in the room. He was sympathetic to my interests in Norwegian composers. He was having problems with his eyes.

    The one I miss the least called himself Kim Beasely.

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    I followed the amazon board for years and was sad when it disappeared. There was ample warning it was going away and just knowing that its days were numbered was difficult.

    Amazon was a bit intimidating, I seldom posted but I was a follower. There were such knowledgeable people who could really write about music. It was a small number, though. I'm glad to see some of them here. I hesitated to follow this board because I wasn't sure it would equal the amazon boards.

    There were some great threads on amazon. I miss threads as well as people. There was one called "Would you dare admit it" or something like that where outrageous or contrary opinions outspokenly presented were welcome.

    How about that member known as superhugefat---, I liked his name as well as his posts. Not sure his name is printable under the rules here.

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    I liked superhugefatass* too, he was fun. He had a big farm, didn’t he? I think he’d just moved when the forums closed.

    *seems to have been accepted!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LezLee View Post
    I liked superhugefatass* too, he was fun. He had a big farm, didn’t he? I think he’d just moved when the forums closed.

    *seems to have been accepted!
    He seemed older to me, but you never can tell..


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    Ken,

    I can just see the smoke billowing out of that van and hear exclamations of "Far out!". Probably had an 8-track player where Innagoddadavita resided for days on end.

    Just kidding. That sounds fun. My wife and I worked our tails off as young adults and rarely took breaks. We are planning on retiring at 50 so that we can do some of the things we missed out on.
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    I still have contact details for SHFA. A fellow Chemist, I got on with him well, and kept in touch for a while after he escaped Amazon. He had more Beethoven symphony cycles than I do (I have a mere 49 and counting, this thanks to Granate and his surveys!).

    Yes he's not old, and disappointingly doesn't seem even remotely excessively plump in the backside department.....

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    Deleted for faulty memory problems.
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    Amazon never caught on that its Yes and No voting system would signal the forum's demise. The No votes started being used for personal spite regardless of how good and constructive the posts were. Amazon never caught on that it needed to eliminate the No vote option, and it’s fortunate that TC does not have it. It was poison, destructive, and in all honesty, I was not sorry to see the classical forum go, though there were some good people. When I looked in on the UK Amazon classical forum, the spitefulness and negativity were even worse. It was devastated by the No voters and was virtually a ghost town by the time it vanished mercifully into the ethers. It’s odd because the No votes problem had been pointed out to Amazon on a number of occasions, even years before the official demise of the forums, and yet they would do nothing about it until the forums were ruined beyond all repair. It was a shame, really.
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    Drat, when I saw the OP I was hoping for an influx of Themyscirans!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkenfield View Post
    Amazon never caught on that its Yes and No voting system would signal the forum's demise. The No votes started being used for personal spite regardless of how good and constructive the posts were. Amazon never caught on that it needed to eliminate the No vote option, and it’s fortunate that TC does not have it. It was poison, destructive, and in all honesty, I was not sorry to see the forums go, though there were some good people. When I looked in on the UK Amazon classical forum, the spitefulness and negativity were even worse. It was devastated by the No voters and was scarcely a ghost town by the time it vanished mercifully into the ethers. It’s odd because the problem had been pointed out to Amazon on a number of occasions, even years before the official demise of the forums, and yet they would do nothing about it until the forums were ruined.
    You're assuming the demise of the forums has to do with "yes" and "no" votes, because of how people behave toward each other?
    Other busy forums on the internet have disappeared as well. I think it is something bigger that sponsors feared, but I'm not sure what.
    I agree that it's better not to have "dislikes" the way they were used to censor on Amazon, though.

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    I believe the Amazon forums disappeared because:

    1. They made no business sense, as Amazon discovered.
    2. Amazon ceased to promote the forums and even made them impossible to find.
    3. Amazon also gradually "defeatured" the forums, eg, removed the search function.
    4. When memberships shrank enough to limit complaints, they shut the forums down.


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    2. and 3. happened because amazon wanted the forums gone and this was their way of weaning people off before killing them entirely.

    It may be that it cost amazon too much money and wasn't worth it for them. I can't help wondering if their lawyers persuaded them that the forums should go for some reason. Speech has all kinds of consequences. But then amazon product reviews persist, so I don't know.

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    I miss the unputdownable (that’s a word) posts of scarecrow;

    Top Ten compositions by composer?

    Posted on Feb 9, 2009 5:54 AM PST
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    Didn't we do this already?
    Since we live in an overly stimulated late capitalist neo-liberal regime, we get an over-abundance of diversions to contemplate, it is democratic to have more than one of anything to choose from, so long as its 'de-caffeinated' products, safe,non-threatening complaisant;
    So it is difficult for me to choose, I've been programmed for consumerist abundance;And I really cannot place all my cognitive subjectivity into one creator or one single place for cognition, I like to explore numerous paradigms of modernist expression; despite how profound that creator may or may not be, genius does have its blindspots,anxieties,incompletedness-es,IDs of miscontemplations. . . .
    I like:
    Allan Pettersson, symphonies,Ninth
    Isang Yun,most music
    Pierre Boulez, Piano sonatas
    Stockhausen, LICHT
    Arthur Kampela
    Wolfgang Rihm,string quartets
    Helmut Lachenmann,anything for orchestra and "Grido", Gran Torso,opera "Das Madchen. . ."
    George Flynn's Trinity,solo piano
    Ralph Shapey, string quartets
    Milton Babbitt,piano solo music
    Beat Furrer
    Michael Finnissy,piano solo music
    Galina Ustvolskaya,symphonies
    Kaija Saariaho
    Salvatore Sciarrino, solo pieces
    Iannis Xenakis

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    The Amazon forums became toxic and that was a good reason in and of itself to eliminate them. I imagine they were originally created as a way to increase sales because people would supposedly be talking about products. And it probably did help sales at the start because I certainly heard about a number of recordings that I purchased. But the point was lost and the forums simply became a battleground of negative opinions that did not necessarily lead to enough sales and because of the expense of running them. The popular IMDB forums were also eliminated for I believe the same reason of terrible toxicity and having to monitor that. I wasn't disappointed to see the toxic forums go except for a few of the members who I thought were insightful and pretty terrific. (Sorry, but ‘scarecrow’ wasn’t one of them with his completely boxed in and negative political views, plus his hard to read free verse on music that was also hard to read, and he would never change his format.) I'm glad to see some of the more positive ones here because the good ones try to be helpful, constructive, and illuminating. They're trying to share something good and open people's minds rather than close them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luchesi View Post
    I miss the unputdownable (that’s a word) posts of scarecrow;
    scarecrow was the star of the forum.

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