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    Is there a name for this sort of thing other than "that bit at the end"?

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    I've sang Liturgical music for some time now, and I've never heard any specific term for that. It is a "cadence" and the bit you highlighted is a "suspension" in the first alto part.

    maybe I'm making the question harder than it is. I don't know of a term for a 4-3 suspension at a cadence in polyphonic music, but it happens a lot, so there could very well be one.

    but it might be that the term you are looking for is simply a "suspension"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Miller View Post
    but it might be that the term you are looking for is simply a "suspension"
    That could be right. Or Steph might be referring more specifically to the use of a standard rhythmic figure in treating suspensions at a final cadence. If so, I don't have a name for that.

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    Oh wait. It's an ornamented anticipation on a weak beat of the suspension's resolution on a strong beat?

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    Ab = suspension
    F = neighbor tone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Miller View Post
    I don't know of a term for a 4-3 suspension at a cadence in polyphonic music, but it happens a lot, so there could very well be one.
    There is a name!!! It's the "Cliched Suspension". You know the one that's used way too often in contemporary Christian music. The one that appears every fourth bar...LOL!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasks View Post
    There is a name!!! It's the "Cliched Suspension". You know the one that's used way too often in contemporary Christian music. The one that appears every fourth bar...LOL!!!
    that one I think actually has a term: I've heard it called the "A-men cadence"

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    Yes, the amen cadence. It's a minimal ornament. The last three notes G - F - G are the same as they would be in a fully executed ornament such as B♭ A♭ B♭ A♭ B♭ A♭ - G - F - G which would be a standard instrumental cadence (cadence = conclusion).

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