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    Default Tchaikovsky - The Complete Symphonies

    Perhaps of interest to those who like modern recordings of classical concerts delivered via Blu-ray audio/video discs, I've started watching/listening to this box set titled "Tchaikovsky, The Complete Symphonies".

    Thus far I've only viewed Symphony 1, and I find it very enjoyable, with excellent video quality, and excellent surround-sound hi-res audio (DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1).

    2017 and 2018 live performances by the Paris Opera Orchestra, conducted by Philippe Jordan.

    As I've said before, Blu-ray audio/video, and Ultra HD Blu-ray, are my favorite ways to enjoy classical recordings, and I think these box sets are a good value. I'm looking forward to watching the other performances during the weeks ahead.

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    Is that straightforward Tchaikovsky or Technicolor Tchaikovsky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    Is that straightforward Tchaikovsky or Technicolor Tchaikovsky?
    Sorry, bigshot, I don't know how to answer that. I can tell you that I'm currently working my way through the Tchaikovsky symphonies, and I'm enjoying this Blu-ray box set very much.

    P.S. I don't find any excerpts on youtube, but when I googled "Philippe Jordan Tchaikovsky Symphonies", I found this review: http://www.musicweb-international.co...ys_109379.html

    And this brief video promo: https://vimeo.com/323431361
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    Ww do have a thread for new ans upcoming releases.

    New Releases.......................
    Same in the opera forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    Ww do have a thread for new ans upcoming releases.

    New Releases.......................
    Same in the opera forum.

    Sorry - I don't understand your point. This thread specifically deals with Blu-ray audio/video recordings, vs. CD and other audio-only formats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertKC View Post
    Sorry, bigshot, I don't know how to answer that.
    Thanks, the review told me what I needed to know. It's straightforward Tchaikovsky. "he does not go overboard by stretching the tempo as some conductors do"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertKC View Post
    Sorry - I don't understand your point. This thread specifically deals with Blu-ray audio/video recordings, vs. CD and other audio-only formats.

    Okay, fair enough .

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    There are great DVDs too. I'm really enjoying the Berlin Philharmonic Euro Concerts box set. Projected, it doesn't look much different at all from a blu-ray, and the surround sound is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    There are great DVDs too. I'm really enjoying the Berlin Philharmonic Euro Concerts box set. Projected, it doesn't look much different at all from a blu-ray, and the surround sound is great.
    bigshot: Am I correct that this is the DVD box set you're referring to?



    Here's the concert list: https://www.berliner-philharmoniker-...rt-concertlist

    25 DVDs. 41 hours. A lot of music, and a chance to see approximately 2 dozen European concert venues. Direct from Berliner Philharmoniker Recordings: $99 + $4.51 shipping to USA, and they accept PayPal. I would have preferred Blu-ray, but with my Oppo UDP-205, upscaled DVD can look very good. Seems like a great deal. I just bought it.

    Thanks for the recommendation.

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    Yes, that is it. Most of the concerts are in 5.1. Only a couple of the earliest ones are stereo. (The concert with Barenboim conducting Mozart from the piano is excellent)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertKC View Post
    bigshot: Am I correct that this is the DVD box set you're referring to?



    Here's the concert list: https://www.berliner-philharmoniker-...rt-concertlist

    25 DVDs. 41 hours. A lot of music, and a chance to see approximately 2 dozen European concert venues. Direct from Berliner Philharmoniker Recordings: $99 + $4.51 shipping to USA, and they accept PayPal. I would have preferred Blu-ray, but with my Oppo UDP-205, upscaled DVD can look very good. Seems like a great deal. I just bought it.

    Thanks for the recommendation.
    I’m about half way through this box set, going in reverse order. Following are my thoughts thus far.

    One of the things that I like about this box set is the opportunity to see 25 concert halls, in addition to seeing/hearing 25 concerts.

    When I purchased the box set titled "Berliner Philharmoniker 25 years of EUROPAKONZERT" (distributed by Berliner Philharmoniker Recordings), I knew that it contains DVDs, not Blu-ray discs. Nonetheless, I’m disappointed that these aren’t Blu-ray discs, and I’m perplexed by the decision to release these recordings on DVD. Why in 2019 would relatively modern recordings be released in a format that has been eclipsed by 2 newer generations of disc technology (i.e., Blu-ray, and Ultra HD Blu-ray)?

    My assessment is that the DVD audio/video quality of the latest recordings (e.g., 2014 and 2015) is “very good” when upscaled by my Oppo UDP-205 universal disc player. However, I imagine that the audio/video quality of these modern recordings would be better if delivered on Blu-ray (with DTS-HD Master Audio 5.0), based on my Blu-ray of the 2018 EUROPAKONZERT, and based on my experience with many other Blu-ray classical concert videos.

    I spot checked the oldest recording (1991) in "Berliner Philharmoniker 25 years of EUROPAKONZERT", and as expected the audio/video quality is much lower than the newest recordings. I understand that the oldest recordings in this collection might not benefit from delivery on a Blu-ray disc, but it seems to me that the newer recordings would benefit from the Blu-ray format.

    IMO the decision to release these recordings on DVD represents a lost opportunity to deliver the best possible quality product – and that’s frustrating because I think these concerts deserve the best possible audio/video quality.

    The Head of Production for EuroArts has not responded to my email about this.

    With that said, this box set is an excellent value. $99US for 25 concerts, i.e., $4 per concert. In contrast, I paid $25 for the Blu-ray for one EUROPAKONZERT (2018). I wonder if the box set of 25 concerts had been released on Blu-ray how much it would have cost. (On one hand, it would probably require fewer than 25 discs. OTOH the cost to produce a Blu-ray might be higher than a DVD – I don’t know.)

    Bottom line, considering the price, I think this DVD box set is worthwhile.

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    I seriously doubt a blu-ray of this would have looked all that much better. These DVDs are anamorphic, well authored and have a hefty data rate for a DVD. The overall quality is great. The price would have been over $200 on blu-ray. I never would blind buy something like that.

    The one I really like so far is the Mozart concertos.

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    I bought the Blu-ray of the 2018 EUROPAKONZERT primarily to compare it with the DVDs of earlier concerts.



    The difference in video quality is subtle – but the Blu-ray of the 2018 concert looks slightly better than the DVD of the 2015 concert. I think the DTS HD MA 5.0 audio for the Blu-ray of the 2018 concert is slightly “bright” sounding, compared with other Blu-ray concert videos that I own - nonetheless it sounds very good.

    It’s clear that the DVD box set of 25 concerts is a far better value compared with buying separate Blu-ray discs for each concert. IMO, the chance to see and hear 25 concerts by the Berliner Philharmoniker in 25 different concert venues makes the DVD collection worthwhile. And, the Dolby Digital 5.1 audio tracks of the more recent concerts on DVD sound very good. (I haven’t yet watched/listened to the earlier concerts, other than a brief sampling of the 1991 concert which plainly shows that recording technology has come a long way since 1991.)

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    I’m about half way through the following box set, and I’m enjoying watching and listening to the performances.

    These recordings of Christian Thielemann leading the Wiener Philharmoniker in 2008 – 2010 performances of all nine Beethoven symphonies are my second Blu-ray box set of Beethoven symphonies. (I also have a Blu-ray box set by Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos (listed in an earlier post), which is also excellent IMO.)

    I find the performances to be very enjoyable.

    I have only briefly sampled this Blu-ray box set’s extensive documentaries, which include lengthy discussions by Thielemann and Joachim Kaiser about each symphony. The production quality of the documentary that I sampled is very high. (I’ll leave it to music scholars to debate the content of their discussions, and the quality of Thielemann’s performances.)

    This Blu-ray’s 1080 video and DTS HD MA 5.0 audio of the performances have excellent audio and video quality. (As always, the Blu-ray also includes a stereo audio track.)

    One of the things that I enjoy about Blu-ray audio/video recordings is being able to see many different concert halls, and conductors. The Vienna concert hall (Goldener Saal der Gesellschaft der Musikfreunde) is beautiful, and I find Thielemann’s unique conducting style to be interesting to watch (after a brief period of acclimation on my part).



    I like these Blu-ray concert videos – and particularly the box sets – well enough that I’ve ordered a 3rd Blu-ray box set of Beethoven symphonies by Mariss Jansons and the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra. (It’s currently on back-order from amazon.)
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    This is a nice set. Some lovely performances.

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    For Beethoven symphonies on Blu-Ray the Jordan set takes some beating. Superb accounts of all symphonies, great sound and a thoroughly enjoyable 9th, in particular. I find Thielemann's set ponderous by comparison. Fischer and Fruhbeck de Burgos are preferable to Thielemann, for me, too.

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