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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    I don't remember him thin and fit.
    I don't believe that he was ever "thin", but he wasn't nearly as obese early in his career:

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    I don't believe that he was ever "thin", but he wasn't nearly as obese early in his career:

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    wow, that is really young.

    I don't recall seeing any performances of his
    looking like that.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    wow, that is really young.

    I don't recall seeing any performances of his
    looking like that.
    He was about 33 years old in my avatar photo and I think relatively not fat.
    "All of Italian opera can be heard in [Bellini's] "Ah! non creda [mirarti]."
    --Renata Scotto in "Scotto, More Than a DIva."

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    My point was when he was fat he was still in world wide
    demand and loved.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    My point was when he was fat he was still in world wide
    demand and loved.
    Well, that is true he was among the top few in highest demand. I am not sure the reason, but I have never been excited by Pavarotti, and he is only in my avarar because it is the only picture that anyone might guess is Firtz Kobus. Although I must admit he was a great tenor, his 8 high Cs in La Fille du regiment proof enough.

    Now all this talk of Pavarotti and he never sang in Meistersinger that I know of. We have to get back to Meistersinger somehow.

    Here is one that looks like a good one (I should not be doing this as the last time I did this a page back, I ended up buying a copy):
    Last edited by Fritz Kobus; Feb-22-2018 at 05:01.
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    ^^^^^Cast and conductor look good.
    I'm always leery of new productions.
    At least its not suicidal Bayreuth.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Not the shape he finally became.
    In 1996 he did Tosca in new York, when he had to go towards the execution place above him he was using a lift which they built for him, I am not kidding.

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    If you want a Meistersinger, the DVD from the last Glyndebourse certainly looks good and sounds good. At least no elephants masquerading as chipmunks on stage!


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    [QUOTE=DarkAngel;1400454]If the new McVicar production did not exist then yeah we go with MET or earlier Bayreuth Stein........
    However both have old 4:3 picture format and weaker sound quality




    This Met Meistersinger from 2002 was actually taped in high definition (1080i) long before this format became widely available. It was broadcast in HD in Japan's NHK network and later on BBC North, of which I own a copy. It has not been released on Blu-ray, but the DVD release does keep the 16:9 widescreen aspect ratio of the HD original. The DVD sound is available in either DTS or Dolby Digital 5.1 plus 2-channel pcm. There is nothing "weak" about its sound quality.

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    Very nice!! ... but any mention of Meistersinger, even if not on DVD, should also include the fellow, named Friedrich Schorr. There's also (and, of course, this version has been mentioned, before) an old (and truly incomplete) recording by the fellow, from Wilhelm Furtwangler in WW2 times (1942 or 1943).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1115 View Post




    This Met Meistersinger from 2002 was actually taped in high definition (1080i) long before this format became widely available. It was broadcast in HD in Japan's NHK network and later on BBC North, of which I own a copy. It has not been released on Blu-ray, but the DVD release does keep the 16:9 widescreen aspect ratio of the HD original. The DVD sound is available in either DTS or Dolby Digital 5.1 plus 2-channel pcm. There is nothing "weak" about its sound quality.
    The MET version does indeed play 16:9 format on DVD, but the DVD package still shows 4:3 format on back panel, hmmmm

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    [QUOTE=ls1115;1681302]
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    If the new McVicar production did not exist then yeah we go with MET or earlier Bayreuth Stein........
    However both have old 4:3 picture format and weaker sound quality




    This Met Meistersinger from 2002 was actually taped in high definition (1080i) long before this format became widely available. It was broadcast in HD in Japan's NHK network and later on BBC North, of which I own a copy. It has not been released on Blu-ray, but the DVD release does keep the 16:9 widescreen aspect ratio of the HD original. The DVD sound is available in either DTS or Dolby Digital 5.1 plus 2-channel pcm. There is nothing "weak" about its sound quality.
    I gave this Met production on DVD and also saw it on cinema broadcast. Afraid HD is not kind to the singers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    I don't believe that he was ever "thin", but he wasn't nearly as obese early in his career:

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    He found that later in his career he could live the good life by just singing (what a voice!) and waving his handkerchief without taking the trouble to actually act on stage too much. I mean he reportedly demanded an extra million dollars from the Three Tenors concert when he heard how well the sales had gone.

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