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    Has anyone heard any of these newly remastered sets?

    http://www.warnerclassics.com/legend...dings/releases

    So far seven recordings have been chosen, though it seems a slightly arbitrary bunch. My interest lies in the Karajan Der Rosenkavalier, and the Giulini Don Giovanni.

    In the case of Der Rosenkavalier they apparently were helped by the original stereo engineer Chris Parker, whose stereo test version has been used for the transfer. I have the original 1987 EMI transfer, and wonder if this will be a marked improvement on that.

    Anyone?
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    I have several of these recordings but not in this remastering. To be honest my ear these days is not so good that a new remastering makes a lot of difference! I'd certainly rate the Giulini Don as one of the greatest operatic performances ever on disc so I'd go for that if you haven't got it. I'd leave the Callas Tosca as she made a far better recording with de Sabata

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    I have several of these recordings but not in this remastering. To be honest my ear these days is not so good that a new remastering makes a lot of difference! I'd certainly rate the Giulini Don as one of the greatest operatic performances ever on disc so I'd go for that if you haven't got it. I'd leave the Callas Tosca as she made a far better recording with de Sabata
    Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I'm thinking of replacements, not first time purchases, so I was really asking if anyone had heard these particular transfers.

    I already have the Don Giovanni, but in its Great Recordings of the Century guise. The Callas Tosca I have of course, as part of the Callas Re-mastered Box set, but it's not a set I listen to often, as, naturally, I'm well aware of the de Sabata Tosca, arguably one of the greatest opera recordings ever to be made.



    I also have the Klemperer Holländer, but I'm quite happy to stick with the pressing I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMitchell View Post
    I also have the Klemperer Holländer, but I'm quite happy to stick with the pressing I have.
    yes I don't think any amount of remastering would make Silja's Senta any sweeter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    yes I don't think any amount of remastering would make Silja's Senta any sweeter!
    True. Mind you she's a lot better than the Senta on the Konwitschny, which is my other recording. Marianne Schech is just awful. Perhaps rather eccentrically, I bought it for Wunderlich's peerless Steersman.
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    I have the Don Giovanni, Carmen and Zauberfloete which I got to replace the EMI GROTC incarnations. I bought the Don Giovanni first to see if these remasterings were better than the previous issues and there is a notable improvement. The sound is more spacious, has a touch greater clarity and there is less distortion in loud passages. I think it is worthwhile getting these upgrades if you like the recordings, although the improvements aren't massive.


    Even better are the versions by Universal that include a Blu Ray audio as well as the remastered CDs. The Sutherland Turandot has never sounded so glorious and full bodied in the choral parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    I have the Don Giovanni, Carmen and Zauberfloete which I got to replace the EMI GROTC incarnations. I bought the Don Giovanni first to see if these remasterings were better than the previous issues and there is a notable improvement. The sound is more spacious, has a touch greater clarity and there is less distortion in loud passages. I think it is worthwhile getting these upgrades if you like the recordings, although the improvements aren't massive.


    Even better are the versions by Universal that include a Blu Ray audio as well as the remastered CDs. The Sutherland Turandot has never sounded so glorious and full bodied in the choral parts.

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    Thanks, that's the sort of feedback I wanted.

    I think I'll probably go for both the Der Rosenkavalier and the Don Giovanni.
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    Well I went for the re-master of Der Rosenkavalier, and have to report that it was well worth the outlay. The sound is much warmer, the balance better and less apt to glare (I had the 1987 transfer before that). Stich-Randall who tended to the shrill in the trio is now much more integrated into the aural picture. I'd call this an unqualified success, and I'm really enjoying re-acquainting myself with this wonderful set, one of my desert island opera recordings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMitchell View Post
    Well I went for the re-master of Der Rosenkavalier, and have to report that it was well worth the outlay. The sound is much warmer, the balance better and less apt to glare (I had the 1987 transfer before that). Stich-Randall who tended to the shrill in the trio is now much more integrated into the aural picture. I'd call this an unqualified success, and I'm really enjoying re-acquainting myself with this wonderful set, one of my desert island opera recordings.
    Of course there were two recordings made - one in mono and the other in experimental (for the time) stereo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Of course there were two recordings made - one in mono and the other in experimental (for the time) stereo.
    All of that is explained in the notes that come with the recording,
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    I was much interested to read this thread because I struggle to choose which remastering version to buy. For example, the Karajan Rosenkavalier was also remastered by EMI. Is the EMI version superior or inferior to the Warner version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echolane View Post
    I was much interested to read this thread because I struggle to choose which remastering version to buy. For example, the Karajan Rosenkavalier was also remastered by EMI. Is the EMI version superior or inferior to the Warner version?
    The new DeLuxe Warner version is definitely the one to go for. The recording can also be had more cheaply in other Warner editions, but they are just re-hashes of what EMI did. All the Warner DeLuxe editions come in a hard back luxury presentation, with full notes, text and translation. In the case of Der Rosenkavalier, it's definitely worth the extra outlay.



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    Thanks! Very impressive and I will buy it. Such extravagance though as I already have the EMI version.

    I also note a SACD version from Japan for sale on eBay. The price of $104 is a deterrent, but I can’t help but wonder how much better the audio might be in SACD.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/HERBERT-VON...wAAOSwsotanC4C

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    Thanks! Very impressive and I will buy it. Such extravagance though as I already have the EMI version.

    I also note a SACD version from Japan for sale on eBay. The price of $104 is a deterrent, but I can’t help but wonder how much better the audio might be in SACD.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/HERBERT-VON...wAAOSwsotanC4C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echolane View Post
    Thanks! Very impressive and I will buy it. Such extravagance though as I already have the EMI version.

    I also note a SACD version from Japan for sale on eBay. The price of $104 is a deterrent, but I can’t help but wonder how much better the audio might be in SACD.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/HERBERT-VON...wAAOSwsotanC4C
    I didn't regret it in the slightest. I gave away my copy of the EMI, so at least it made someone else very happy.
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