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    Oppo announced on it’s web site that they have ceased production of all of their products. They stated they wii provide product support for three years

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    That settles that; tomorrow I order new ear pads for my PM-2 headphones.
    I love music. I want music. I need music.

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    The real money isn't in the top end of the market.
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    I pass on headphones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe B View Post
    That settles that; tomorrow I order new ear pads for my PM-2 headphones.
    I have PM-3s. The pads are not user-replaceable. Grrr.

    I also have a BDP 105. Their universal players were outstanding for their price point, but so few people buy players like that any more. And the headphone market is so crowded, including much better known brands offering good products for prices competitive with Oppo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    I have PM-3s. The pads are not user-replaceable. Grrr.

    I also have a BDP 105. Their universal players were outstanding for their price point, but so few people buy players like that any more. And the headphone market is so crowded, including much better known brands offering good products for prices competitive with Oppo.
    Apparently the decline in sales, per an Audiophile Forum that I participate in, was the killer, altho9ugh they had been moving towards 1 boxes that were Universal Players, DACs and Streamers, and had they completed that move I think that would have made them pretty unique.
    I confess that bigshot's comment leaves me confused, because pricewise, Oppo isn't anywhere near the top of the market. They provided outstanding value at real world prices.
    I ordered a 203. I will keep it in a box until my 105, which I use as a Digital transport only, dies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe B View Post
    That settles that; tomorrow I order new ear pads for my PM-2 headphones.
    Order placed. Now I'm wondering if I should buy another player for down the road?
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    I bought a 205 yesterday and received it today! I guess it helps living in the same state. Anyway, it has amazing sound and video quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplets View Post
    I confess that bigshot's comment leaves me confused, because pricewise, Oppo isn't anywhere near the top of the market.
    You can get a good midrange blu-ray player for under $200. Even the cheapest blu-ray player looks and sounds as good as an Oppo. The difference is in features, particularly the ones that make the Oppo players a combination of AVR, player and set top streaming device. The other features that set Oppo apart are the ability to play MKV files off thumb drives, rip SACDs (103 and 105 only), and the analog audio outputs that work with older AVRs.

    With Oppo out of the game, this leaves Sony in the top spot for features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    You can get a good midrange blu-ray player for under $200. Even the cheapest blu-ray player looks and sounds as good as an Oppo. The difference is in features, particularly the ones that make the Oppo players a combination of AVR, player and set top streaming device. The other features that set Oppo apart are the ability to play MKV files off thumb drives, rip SACDs (103 and 105 only), and the analog audio outputs that work with older AVRs.

    With Oppo out of the game, this leaves Sony in the top spot for features.
    I love music. I want music. I need music.

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    I have three blu-ray players... a $120 Sony, a $90 Pioneer and an Oppo BDP-103D... and I've done side by side comparison tests with them. At default settings they all look and sound the same. Blu-ray spec is audibly transparent. The Oppo has better specs, but all of them are far beyond human hearing. The Oppo has better image processing filters, but at default, blu-ray spec is blu-ray spec. It's by definition better than your ability to percieve. The only way that one could look and sound different from another is if one is defective by design or manufacture.

    The biggest problem with blu-ray players is manufacturers who don't keep up with firmware updates. That can lead to discs that won't play. Oppo is very good about updates. I wonder if they'll continue that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    I have three blu-ray players... a $120 Sony, a $90 Pioneer and an Oppo BDP-103D... and I've done side by side comparison tests with them. At default settings they all look and sound the same. Blu-ray spec is audibly transparent. The Oppo has better specs, but all of them are far beyond human hearing. The Oppo has better image processing filters, but at default, blu-ray spec is blu-ray spec. It's by definition better than your ability to percieve. The only way that one could look and sound different from another is if one is defective by design or manufacture.

    The biggest problem with blu-ray players is manufacturers who don't keep up with firmware updates. That can lead to discs that won't play. Oppo is very good about updates. I wonder if they'll continue that.
    I do think the DACs that are in Oppo players, particularly their upper models, blow away any cheapo BDP. That won’t be an issue if you are using external DACs, but they are nice to have.
    I installed my 203 in my two channel system, where it replaces the 105 that had become a transport only. Meanwhile I moved the 105 to my HT System. Besides playing DVDs and BDs I am using the 105 as a DAC for my Bluesound Node2 and it’s a significant and easily audible upgrade over the DAC in the Node or in the AVR (a ten year old Onkyo) that drives them.
    With the demise of Oppo, it doesn’t mean much, anyway...

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    I don’t have an AVR, and don’t want one.

    I connect my vintage tube amps (power amps and integrated amps) directly to my Oppo UDP-205 (x2), BDP-105, and BDP-95.

    I use almost all of the following features of my UDP-205:

    • Audiophile grade DACs (32-bit ESS Technology ES9038 PRO reference DACs) and analog circuitry (i.e., RCA analog line-level outputs) built in: yes
    • RCA analog line-level outputs for stereo and surround-sound (5.1, 7.1): yes
    • CD: yes
    • Ability to support digital audio (and video) recording formats newer than 30+ year-old Red Book CD: yes
    • SACD: yes
    • Blu-ray: yes
    • Pure Audio Blu-ray: Yes
    • Ultra HD Blu-ray: yes
    • Support for Reference Quality Video with HDR & Dolby Vision: yes
    • Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio: yes
    • Ability to play MQA files from connected USB hard drives and thumb drives, DLNA servers, and SMB shares. yes (However, I don’t use this feature.)
    • Hi-res FLAC download (24/96 and 24/192): yes
    • Hi-res DSD download: yes
    • Ability to connect to a USB external drive (or memory stick) that contains music files. yes
    • Support for streaming from local NAS (via DLNA) for all formats listed above. yes
    • XLR balanced and RCA single-ended connectors: yes
    • Coaxial/Optical Audio output: yes (However, I don’t use this feature.)
    • Coax and optical digital inputs allowing use of Oppo’s DACs by an external device: yes (I have my HDTV connected via TosLink to my Oppo UDP-205 in one system. Chromecast Audio is connected via TosLink to my UDP-205 in a different system, facilitating streaming audio such as Spotify Premium and Tunein radio.)
    • HDMI input to connect to Chromecast (video). Yes
    • Asynchronous USB DAC input (e.g., connect to PC) with sample rates up to 768 kHz PCM and DSD 512: yes (However, I don’t use this feature.)
    • Disc tray included: yes. (I.e., ease of use associated with “drop a disc into the tray and hit “PLAY” button – without countless hours to rip discs”. In other words, no “faff”.)
    • Built-in pre-amp functionality, including remote volume control: yes
    • Ability to directly connect any amplifier, without requiring an HDMI connection: yes
    • Ability to directly drive power amps(s) (i.e., no external pre-amp): yes
    • Built-in “bass management”, including line-level RCA connection for a powered subwoofer, and configurable crossover parameters: yes
    • Built-in headphone amp: yes (However, I don’t use this feature.)
    • No AVR or preprocessor needed. yes
    • No external DAC needed. yes
    • No preamp needed, unless you listen to LPs, or want tone controls. Yes
    • High quality electronic components, and solid build quality: yes
    • HDCD support: No (AFAIK, I don’t own any HDCD, so this isn’t an issue for me)


    AFAIK, there is no other “universal player” that supports all of these features – most of which are important to me. I’m glad I bought a second UDP-205 when Oppo announced that they are ceasing production.

    I will stipulate that John Q. Public generally wants an inexpensive black-plastic made-in-China AVR from a big-box-store. In which case they can connect the cheapest-available Blu-ray player via HDMI, and likely will be content. That’s not me. To each their own.
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    Congratulations. That's quite a set-up, Robert.
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